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YahwehisHisname said:How about these ones?
Abba Father. Title
Adonai title
Baal-i guise of satan
El singular form of "God" or diety supreme one
Elohim plural form of above word(not name)
Jah
Jehovah No "J" until a few hundred years ago so this is easy to dismiss.
Yahweh This is the closest vocalized name He gave to us 7000 times in scripture. His intent is clear. Our minds are what is muddled.
YHVH
Proponents of this rendering usually say YHVH is most dorrectly Yahvah, as opposed to Yahweh. TheTetregrammation is Yud Heh Vev Heh, but what they are doing is rendering the alphabet which is not always a good way to transliterate. Moreover, most experts in paleo Hebrew render the Hebrew alphabetic pronunciations of these letters yod not yud, and weh, wah or vah rather than veh. While some consider the W sound to be closer to our V sound, I am unaware of any scholar who renders the W as a vev.
Hi: if your question is as I read it, the English letters would be more or less like this:Iollain said:Now how is that pronounced Oblio?
Rdr Iakovos said:Hi: if your question is as I read it, the English letters would be more or less like this:
Biblos genesis Iesou Christou uiou Dab(v)id uiou
Ab(v)raam
(The) book of the beginnings/origin (generations) of Jesus the anointed, son of David, son of Abraham.
Perhaps that is helpful?
Regards
Iakovos
Hi parents likely spoke Aramaic- not sure on Jesus' name in Aramaic.Iollain said:That would sound a lot like Jesus?
Wonder what it sounded like when His parents said His name? Was it Yeshua or Iesou?
Rdr Iakovos said:Hi parents likely spoke Aramaic- not sure on Jesus' name in Aramaic.
Iesou in Greek is pronounced today ee aa soo, emphasis on the middle syllable. The pronunciation in ancient times is a matter of speculation. But Jesus, as we say it, or hay soos as the Spanish say it, both are reasonable approximations.
Excuse me, but that is lunacy. Luke wrote: “And IY (Iota Epsilon – representing Yahshua’s Divine name)…”
(Luke 4:14)
Neither Luke or anyone else ever wrote “Jesus” or “Iesous” because that is not what Yahweh inspired.
One hundred percent of the earliest manuscripts we have discovered, use two or three Greek capital letters with a horizontal line over them, as a placeholder for Yahshua’s name. In the oldest copy we have of Luke, you will find: IY. This bears little resemblance to Yahshua’s actual name or its weak Greek (Iesous) and wholly errant English (Jesus) transliteration.
Rendered by the name of the Greek letters, Yahshua was represented by two or three of the following: “Iota Eta Sigma Omicron Epsilon and then either Sigma, Epsilon, or Ne, depending upon the name’s use in the sentence. In letter equivalents, the two or three capital letters used as placeholders in all of the early manuscripts were comprised of: I-H-S-O-Y and then either S, Y, or N. Phonetically, these letters, had they actually been written out, would have comprised the following sounds: i-ee-s-o-ee- then either s, ee, or n, therefore i-ee-s-o-ee-s, i-ee-s-o-ee-ee, or i-ee-s-o-ee-n. As you can see, these don’t even approximate Yahshua, which is probably why they weren’t ever written out. It is God’s name, after all. The first people to follow the Way and trust Yahshua had no interest in butchering the name of the Spirit who redeemed them.
Post Constantine and the birth of the Roman Catholic Church, things changed. The original author’s nomenclature was ignored and priests replaced their IS, HIS, IY, IHY, IN, or IHN with Iesous, Iesoue, or Iesoun. These were entirely manmade creations. No variation of these names appear in any of the 70 Greek Renewed Covenant manuscripts dating between 60 CE and 299 CE. Not one, not ever. Without a basis for Iesous, there is no basis for Jesus. Yahweh did not inspire the use of Iesous, Iesoue, Iesoun, or Jesus. Man did. These are not the Savior’s names. Yahshua is.
Post Constantine and the birth of the Roman Catholic Church, things changed. The original author’s nomenclature was ignored and priests replaced their IS, HIS, IY, IHY, IN, or IHN with Iesous, Iesoue, or Iesoun. These were entirely manmade creations. No variation of these names appear in any of the 70 Greek Renewed Covenant manuscripts dating between 60 CE and 299 CE. Not one, not ever. Without a basis for Iesous, there is no basis for Jesus. Yahweh did not inspire the use of Iesous, Iesoue, Iesoun, or Jesus. Man did. These are not the Savior’s names. Yahshua is.
One hundred percent of the earliest manuscripts we have discovered, use two or three Greek capital letters with a horizontal line over them, as a placeholder for Yahshua’s name.
Oblio said:Absurd, they were not placeholders for any Sacred Name, but rather abbreviations as is the Greek custom.
Oblio
Melethiel said:The idea that Jesus' name is not to be transliterated is silly. Names are often changed to more easily fit the common tongue of the location...ie., my brother goes as Michael, not Mykhailo, which is his "real" name. All this is quibbling over nothing.
Oblio said:The Irony ...
Those with Yahshua knew and used the actual Hebrew names. And so should we.
Melethiel said:The idea that Jesus' name is not to be transliterated is silly. Names are often changed to more easily fit the common tongue of the location...ie., my brother goes as Michael, not Mykhailo, which is his "real" name. All this is quibbling over nothing.
If you know of a error ...
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