Quakers

[Albion]

If I remember correctly the first woman to be executed in the New England was a Quaker and that was her crime.

What crime was that?

 

[PloverWing]

What crime was that?

This sounds like the story of Mary Dyer, who was executed in 1660 for the crime of being a Quaker in the Massachusetts Bay Colony. I don't think she was the first, but she was the most famous. Details here: Mary Dyer - Wikipedia, Boston martyrs - Wikipedia

 

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Quaker (Friends) basics

The Quaker Basics: Short Quaker Videos for Newcomers

Watched a minute or two one of their videos. Scary stuff there. They do not agree to any identified statement of faith.

It's all about personal experience for them.

This is clearly unbiblical in my understanding of God's Word.

 

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"If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed" (2 John 1:10).

 

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"If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words,
even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing,..." (1 Timothy 6:3-4).

 

[JackRT]

What crime was that?

Being a Quaker in New England.

 

[timothyu]

Quakers are anti-trinitarian and therefore a sect outside of the Church. That is, anyone who denies that Jesus is God in flesh is speaking against God's Word. Now there are many bodies that come out of the Quakers who do believe in the Trinity, but they are marked by inherited anti-trinitarian ideas, confused doctrine and emotionalism. Put simply, any religious body that denies that Jesus is God is not Christian.

So who is #1 ?

 

[SkyWriting]

To follow up on what SkyWriting wrote, we may say things about the Quakers, but the fact is that today's Quakers are broken into so many branches--ones that, in addition, are much different from each other than, say, the different Lutheran or Pentecostal churches are of each other--that it is really hard to say WHAT exactly the attributes or beliefs of "Quakers" are anymore.

My church is from the Pennsylvania Quakers. "Church of the Brethren" do not consider ourselves as "Friends". (But are actually very friendly people.)
I'd say quiet reflection is huge in our church, but not required or anything.
Dancing is not outlawed, but is pretty rarely a church event. The country churches were into square dancing for social events, as I remember.

Our First Friends, The Early Quakers | PHMC > History > William Penn's Legacy: Religious and Spiritual Diversity > History

 

[Albion]

I'm left to wonder what "from the Pennsylvania Quakers" means. I take it you don't mean that it IS affiliated with any Quaker meeting since you list yourself as "Non-denominational."

 

[timothyu]

My church is from the Pennsylvania Quakers.

Liberal? Pastoral? Conservative? Evangelical?

 

[Daniel9v9]

So who is #1 ?

Sorry, I don’t understand the question.

 

[SkyWriting]

Quakers are anti-trinitarian and therefore a sect outside of the Church. That is, anyone who denies that Jesus is God in flesh is speaking against God's Word. Now there are many bodies that come out of the Quakers who do believe in the Trinity, but they are marked by inherited anti-trinitarian ideas, confused doctrine and emotionalism. Put simply, any religious body that denies that Jesus is God is not Christian.

God's word explains that the Bible is not required reading.
So you would need to define your terms better.
And you need to be specific when you are judging others.
Just to be fair, while you judge on appearance.

Romans 1:20
For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.

Romans 1:19
For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.

Isaiah 40:26
Lift up your eyes on high and see: who created these? He who brings out their host by number, calling them all by name, by the greatness of his might, and because he is strong in power not one is missing.

Psalm 19
The heavens declare the glory of God, and the sky above proclaims his handiwork. Day to day pours out speech, and night to night reveals knowledge. There is no speech, nor are there words, whose voice is not heard. Their voice goes out through all the earth, and their words to the end of the world.

Psalm 33:6-9
By the word of the Lord the heavens were made, and by the breath of his mouth all their host. He gathers the waters of the sea as a heap; he puts the deeps in storehouses. Let all the earth fear the Lord; let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of him! For he spoke, and it came to be; he commanded, and it stood firm.

Psalm 8:3
When I look at your heavens, the work of your fingers, the moon and the stars, which you have set in place,

Romans 2:15
They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them

John 1:18
No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at the Father's side, he has made him known.

Psalm 119:90
Your faithfulness endures to all generations; you have established the earth, and it stands fast.

Deuteronomy 4:19
And beware lest you raise your eyes to heaven, and when you see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, you be drawn away and bow down to them and serve them, things that the Lord your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven.

Colossians 1:15
He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation.

Job 31:26-28
if I have looked at the sun when it shone, or the moon moving in splendor, and my heart has been secretly enticed, and my mouth has kissed my hand, this also would be an iniquity to be punished by the judges, for I would have been false to God above.

Matthew 5:45
so that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven. For he makes his sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust.

Psalm 90:2
Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever you had formed the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God.

 

[timothyu]

Sorry, I don’t understand the question.

Well you explained why you think Quakers are not #1 so I wondered who is?

 

[SkyWriting]

Liberal? Pastoral? Conservative? Evangelical?

Pretty much.

Very low on evangelical gifts.
Recruitment is very rare.

 

[dqhall]

I have often been intrigued by Quakers. Is anyone here one and what are people's thoughts about their way of Christianity?

During the 80’s I attended a friends meeting. It was in a house sized building with folding metal chairs. People were allowed to speak if they thought their messages were inspired. There were long silences. The people were gentle. A woman told about a man who saw the letters GPC in the clouds. He thought it meant “Go Preach Christ.” She said it really meant, “Go Plant Corn.” Her example helped me realize we have different callings. Some of the congregation ministered to the poorest of the community.

 

[lsume]

I am from Church of the Brethren. I think 2 church splits from the original Quakers. They got their name from the intensity of their convictions about God.
Very different from the "Friends" of today.

Wasn’t President Nixon raised as a Quacker?

 

[Archivist]

Wasn’t President Nixon raised as a Quacker?

A Quacker?

 

[timothyu]

Sounds Daffy

 

[SkyWriting]

Wasn’t President Nixon raised as a Quacker?

The peaceful quiet kind.
They actually have no service. Just a quiet meeting, often 30 minutes of silence.

 

[timothyu]

often 30 minutes of silence.

A good way to pray. Listen instead of a continuous list of wants.