Purifying water

[SavedByGrace3]

An EMP would not contaminate the well. Nuclear fallout would, but just an EMP wouldn't. But if a foreign power or terrorist group did manage to detonate a nuclear device at a high altitude, the fallout would be scattered over a very wide area as most of it would be caught in the jet stream. A Mass Coronal Ejection which can also cause an EMP, would leave no fallout.

Also, most of the material from a nuclear detonation has a short half-life. Within a few months, most of the radiation would have dissipated. Its only the long term material, which can have a half-life measured in thousands of years, which is the danger.

It would be very informative to start threads on both EMP and Mass Coronal Ejection.
These are among the top reasons why people prep. I think an enemy EMP would be the most likely event to bring disaster to the US.

 

[William67]

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[Grafted In]

But, a neutron bomb would cause little destruction but would cause far more deaths even In a well built fallout shelter.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

But, a neutron bomb would cause little destruction but would cause far more deaths even In a well built fallout shelter.

True...
N bomb is designed to kill personell while leaving buildings and vehicles relatively intact.

 

[William67]

But, a neutron bomb would cause little destruction but would cause far more deaths even In a well built fallout shelter.

True, but the fact that neutron bombs are pretty much limited to the 10 kiloton range limits their effect. Neutrons are quickly absorbed by air. The Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombs were in the 15kt-21kt range. To get the grid killing effect of an EMP, you need much larger yields, such as those in the multiple-megaton range.

So, neutron bombs are principally a low-level bomb. A detonation in the upper atmosphere would negate the effect and would produce a low level EMP. Nuclear fallout shelters with high hydrocarbon shielding substantially block neutrons.

 

[Grafted In]

From what I understand the radiation from a neutron bomb has far greater pernetration capability making it difficult to build an underground bunker that can protect you.
But, then, i'm not a scientist.....barely made it though highschool.
If you get bored and want something interesting to read about Google the Russian Tsar Bomba.

 

[Grafted In]

Another product that will purify water is PP, potassium permanganate. It turns the water dark purple. It can be neutralized by using ST, but that leaves an ugly brown color to the water. A better way is to neutralize it with high stenghth (35%) hydrogen peroxide. When a sufficient amount of HP is added the water turns crystal clear
The reason I mention PP is that it may perhaps hit impurities that ST does not, but I do not know that for certain. I know ST neutralizes more than just chlorine, so PP may as well. Extreme caution is advised when using PP. If it comes in contact with skin it turns it brown. Not a big deal. But the eyes and lungs are vulnerable to perhaps permanate damage. Always use eye protection and a mask. The brown skin will go away in a few days.

 

[FreeinChrist]

Here is an idea i had for a water filter using simple material yet in my mind should be effective . Take a 2 liter bottle and a funnel. fill bottle 1/2 full of play sand. Then add a 3" layer of activated charcoal. finally fill the rest of the way with pea gravel. You could make several of these rather inexpensively and store for later use.
When preparing to use them for filtering rain water you have collected or cistern water etc. drill a small hole in the cap of the 2 liter bottle. use a rubber band to secure a couple of coffee filters to the cap. then turn upside down and cut a hole in the bottom of the 2 liter bottle to pour the water through. Of course you would boil this water first and let it cool. add a purification tablet or small amount of bleach. I would guestimate that a filter like this would be good for at least 5 to 10 gallons. In my opinion.

I welcome any suggestions or critiques on this idea. God bless

Interesting!

 

[Fireinfolding]

Everyone builds their home made 2 liter filtration a tad different.

Here is one with grass and layered differently as well,

From here

http://familyprotectionassociation.com/survival-water-filter/

I have never put one together, I have the activated carbon, but not the sand or the pebbles.

I just picked up something last week that I thought would come in handy for filtering, it was one of those purchases where I just said to myself you will likely be able to use this for something, and it inserts into a 5 gallon bucket to boot. But they come in various microns and I thought, theres got to be a cool way to make a larger stackable version using something like this

Since it sets inside a 5 gallon bucket, get various sizes or use this in some kind of a home system to take more of the work off your ceramic filters. Like in one you could add the activated carbon keeping it separate (moreso) because just like you can recharge silica I have read you can also reactivate your pre activated carbon as well. And the sand (I would think) would also be reusuable, seeing we backflush water through our pool sandfilter reusing the same (and it adequately cleans 10,000 gallons of water) over a long period of time without needing to be replaced. The water purification in that whole deal being the pool chemicals (not all for internal use) but the granulated form of bleach found in the pool shock in the tiniest quantities even as you have shown would be a help towards that even.

I never really got why some filters have grass in them

But I thought, if only I could separate and layer and then take each wash those out and reactivate the other would last much longer then a few gallons

 

[star in the sky]

Just a note. I heard a lady speaking from christchurch nz after thier earthquake.she said one thing you should not do is store things in only one part of the house.as she found out... You cant assume you will be able to get to them when its buried under roof and walls and the ground liquified and mud filled the crushed mess.
Old adage i guess. Dont put all the eggs in onebasket..

And yes bore (well) water can become toxic after earthquakes if near by contaminants are forced into the water table by the sheer pressures at work.

Have faith in God..keep the faith.

yes I'm from Christchurch NZ and you have to expect or be prepared for liquifaction and giant cracks in your back yard the liquefaction also is another reason for dust masks medical masks it was like grey dust in the air

 

[Grafted In]

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Since it sets inside a 5 gallon bucket, get various sizes or use this in some kind of a home system to take more of the work off your ceramic filters. Like in one you could add the activated carbon keeping it separate (moreso) because just like you can recharge silica I have read you can also reactivate your pre activated carbon as well. And the sand (I would think) would also be reusuable, seeing we backflush water through our pool sandfilter reusing the same (and it adequately cleans 10,000 gallons of water) over a long period of time without needing to be replaced. The water purification in that whole deal being the pool chemicals (not all for internal use) but the granulated form of bleach found in the pool shock in the tiniest quantities even as you have shown would be a help towards that even.
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I'm confused by some of your wording. First you state that silica can be recharged then later you refer to sand, seemingly as another product. Sand is silica. What am I missing?
Also, the idea of a sand filter making water cleaner is not exactly true. The impurities are still in your water column, unless you are referring to a small quantity poured through it and removed from the source of your water.
What are you referring to when you mentioned ceramics?

 

[Fireinfolding]

I'm confused by some of your wording. First you state that silica can be recharged then later you refer to sand, seemingly as another product. Sand is silica. What am I missing?

Fireinfolding,

Silica here (the description shows its rechargeable)

That was mentioned per another thread in respects to being able to continually reuse it (by the method the description states)

When I was speaking of silica I was not talking about "quartz silica sand" but making mention of these reusable "silica beads" (pictured in the above) which we were talking about in a previous conversation around this same time. These being reusable or rechargable being altogether different from "quartz silica sand" (or pool filter sand).

I know you did not bring this up but I had mentioned the possibility of recharging activated carbon also (which goes into this homemade filter here) and there seems to be an opposing thought on that also.

Also, the idea of a sand filter making water cleaner is not exactly true. The impurities are still in your water column, unless you are referring to a small quantity poured through it and removed from the source of your water.
What are you referring to when you mentioned ceramics?

I dont know to what you are referring but filtering in the sense I meant it was to remove the larger particles (not viruses and things like that) I have chemicals to purify my water, but you can extend the life of your other filtration systems using cleaner water and that is one way to provide it (and that by the removal of the larger particle debri).

And by ceramics I am talking about filters, ever hear of ceramic filters? I had shared on another thread that I had a Berkey (water purifier) and Berkey has ceramic filters

These ceramics

I am catching up to posts, I took a break, I hope that answers your questions

I cant figure out the quote functions on this new board.

[Okay, I edited it, its a tad more readable now.]

 

[Fireinfolding]

The board didnt take the first half my post, and had me speaking his words, this is messed up, but I think I fixed it.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Got one of these. Looks pretty good for an emergency.

 

[SavedByGrace3]

Got some of this. Not exactly sure what to do with it...