Punks Charged With Urinating in Holy Water

[drspock]

Amen. They should be punished for that. What if someone desecrated your home or your bedroom? I'm sure you would want to press charges on them wouldn't you?

I am in Salt Lake. If someone desecrated the LDS Temple here like that I would be outraged. Vandalism to any religions sacred sites or possessions is wrong and should be punished to the full extent of the law.

 

[Quantos]

Holy Place ?

Is God's dwelling place made of Stone & Brick ?

 

[drspock]

Holy Place ?

Is God's dwelling place made of Stone & Brick ?

God's dwelling place is not the issue at hand. Religious vandalism is. Please stick to the OP. Thanks

 

[IncogNEAT-O]

I lived on the East coast for a long time... Urinating into holy water is despicable and really not nice, but it is no crime. How does it help anyone to criminalize stupidity?

Not to drag this thread off-topic, but...

For those denominations who use Holy Water it is considered exactly that - HOLY; blessed by a priest. I seem to recall a major ruckus over accusations of American soldiers urinating on a copy of the Koran - why the double standard? It's just despicable when someone urinates in Holy Water, but it's nearly a capital offense when someone urinates on a copy of a book that holds religious significance to some people?

 

[Ave Maria]

This is an absolute outrage in my opinion.

 

[Norseman]

MAybe because the laws in this case are a bit extreme? For me this doesn't constitute a crime, sorry if I disagree with you and the law!

Well actually, they caused a few thousand dollars worth of damage to the church as well. I think that's what they're being charged with.

 

[BarbB]

Why aren't they going to be charged with a hate crime as they would be if they had desecrated any other religion's property? Hmmmm.

 

[Ave Maria]

Why aren't they going to be charged with a hate crime as they would be if they had desecrated any other religion's property? Hmmmm.

Good point. I have no idea why they weren't charged with a hate crime. Could it be because Christians were the victims? Anyway, they definitely should be charged with a hate crime.

 

[TheMainException]

This is dumb, all of you, dumb dumb dumb...if it costs money, they pay it back, simple as that....it's not worth fighting over...especially what to call them, criminals by name, act or otherwise, it's not worth the time and energy to label them as such....they broke the law and are in need to return what the price cost. That is all...that in itself will be worth it, as a punishment.

 

[BarbB]

Not to drag this thread off-topic, but...

For those denominations who use Holy Water it is considered exactly that - HOLY; blessed by a priest. I seem to recall a major ruckus over accusations of American soldiers urinating on a copy of the Koran - why the double standard? It's just despicable when someone urinates in Holy Water, but it's nearly a capital offense when someone urinates on a copy of a book that holds religious significance to some people?

Because they did NOT urinate on the Koran!!!!!

 

[njcl]

bit betwixt and between on this one,i robbed a church of savings when i was a youth although i never got caught {i replaced the cash later on in life} so who is worse,me who deprived poor people of food or those youths who peed into holy water,im thinking my crime was worse,maybe probation was fitting for them,jail is a bit extreme i think

 

[Ave Maria]

bit betwixt and between on this one,i robbed a church of savings when i was a youth although i never got caught {i replaced the cash later on in life} so who is worse,me who deprived poor people of food or those youths who peed into holy water,im thinking my crime was worse,maybe probation was fitting for them,jail is a bit extreme i think

Well they deserve probation and a hefty fine at the very least.

 

[MidnightBlue]

Punks Charged With Urinating in Holy Water

That gives a new and disturbing meaning to a profane expression of my grandfather's.

 

[markbelieves]

This is dumb, all of you, dumb dumb dumb...if it costs money, they pay it back, simple as that....it's not worth fighting over...especially what to call them, criminals by name, act or otherwise, it's not worth the time and energy to label them as such....they broke the law and are in need to return what the price cost. That is all...that in itself will be worth it, as a punishment.

It is not quite that simple. They did trash the place. The punishment has to extend beyond the cost. That kind of vandalism, destruction of property, religious or not calls for a minimum of probation. Plain and simple. This isn't like walking into a store and accidentally breaking something. Their actions not only destroyed property, which they will pay to replace, but it also hurt a lot of people who are part of that church. What is the punishment for that, nothing?

Mark

 

[Ave Maria]

It is not quite that simple. They did trash the place. The punishment has to extend beyond the cost. That kind of vandalism, destruction of property, religious or not calls for a minimum of probation. Plain and simple. This isn't like walking into a store and accidentally breaking something. Their actions not only destroyed property, which they will pay to replace, but it also hurt a lot of people who are part of that church. What is the punishment for that, nothing?

Mark

Exactly!

 

[praying]

As they should be charged. How rude.

Rude, I would say it is quite a bit more than rude.

 

[Ave Maria]

Rude, I would say it is quite a bit more than rude.

That's for sure!

 

[InnerPhyre]

I wouldn't call them criminals, but that surely is disgusting behavior! MAybe bootcamp would be good for them

They caused $17,000 worth of damage to the church. They burned holes, smashed bottles of wine on the walls, emptied fire extinguishers, and left tire tracks on the carpet with their bikes.

 

[praying]

They caused $17,000 worth of damage to the church. They burned holes, smashed bottles of wine on the walls, emptied fire extinguishers, and left tire tracks on the carpet with their bikes.

And like you are pointing out that was criminal and they are criminals. What is to decide they committed a crime, criminals commit crimes, those words work in conjunction with each other.

 

[MadeInOz]

They need a few swift kicks to the behind... in one form or another.

If you don't punish it, then they're only going to continue being stupid....... or it will say that what they did was okay...