Psalm 22

[Aaron-Aggie]

There is a great chapter on this in "Seven Words of Jesus and Mary" by Bishop Sheen.
And yes i going to recommend this book one every thread I can

 

[countrymousenc]

Kimber,

The Protestants believe that Christ was forsaken because he took on our sins, and God separated himself from Him and then when judged Him, He was found righteous so he rose from the dead and anyone who is saved had their sins put to death when Christ was forsaken and judged righteous, that is why they believe they can not lose salvation and why they are righteous now, even though the still sin.

Just an aside...

That's not what traditional Protestant churches teach, although there may be confused members who think this. The Trinity cannot be separated; we know that.

 

[Benedicta00]

Just an aside...

That's not what traditional Protestant churches teach, although there may be confused members who think this. The Trinity cannot be separated; we know that.

I am aware of this but the problem is in Protestantism there is no authority for one to tell the other that their belief is or is not orthodox. On what basis do you tell another Protestants that their interpretation of scripture is incorrect?

Sola scripture is the only authority in a Protestants Christian life thus truth becomes very subjective when you leave out Tradition

 

[countrymousenc]

I am aware of this but the problem is in Protestantism there is no authority for one to tell the other that their belief is or is not orthodox. On what basis do you tell another Protestants that their interpretation of scripture is incorrect?

Sola scripture is the only authority in a Protestants Christian life thus truth becomes very subjective when you leave out Tradition

I hope it's ok to just offer some further information in response. Some Protestants do rely on sola scriptura, but very few actually practice it. If you go to the official websites of various Protestant denominations, you can see for yourself which parts of the Tradition have been retained as dogma. The United Methodists, for example, have The Book of Discipline, the Missouri Synod Lutherans have the Augsburg Confession, among a few other things, and even the various Baptists have confessions and statements of faith. All traditional Protestant churches, moreover, recognize and confess as authoritative the Apostle's Creed, the Nicene Creed, and the Athanasian Creed. (That does not include the Baptists, who are non-creedal).

The problem may be that, unfortunately, the loudest and most visible Protestants are usually also the most ill-informed.

 

[Christy4Christ]

I hope it's ok to just offer some further information in response. Some Protestants do rely on sola scriptura, but very few actually practice it. If you go to the official websites of various Protestant denominations, you can see for yourself which parts of the Tradition have been retained as dogma. The United Methodists, for example, have The Book of Discipline, the Missouri Synod Lutherans have the Augsburg Confession, among a few other things, and even the various Baptists have confessions and statements of faith. All traditional Protestant churches, moreover, recognize and confess as authoritative the Apostle's Creed, the Nicene Creed, and the Athanasian Creed. (That does not include the Baptists, who are non-creedal).

The problem may be that, unfortunately, the loudest and most visible Protestants are usually also the most ill-informed.

I do happen to agree with this....

 

[Benedicta00]

I hope it's ok to just offer some further information in response. Some Protestants do rely on sola scriptura, but very few actually practice it. If you go to the official websites of various Protestant denominations, you can see for yourself which parts of the Tradition have been retained as dogma. The United Methodists, for example, have The Book of Discipline, the Missouri Synod Lutherans have the Augsburg Confession, among a few other things, and even the various Baptists have confessions and statements of faith. All traditional Protestant churches, moreover, recognize and confess as authoritative the Apostle's Creed, the Nicene Creed, and the Athanasian Creed. (That does not include the Baptists, who are non-creedal).

The problem may be that, unfortunately, the loudest and most visible Protestants are usually also the most ill-informed.

Perhaps, but nothing binds their conscious. It isn’t considered a sin against faith if the agree to disagree. And the different documents of each faith varies with one another, which goes back to who do you believe? The one you choose to. There is no authority to tell them they made the wrong choice.

 

[ej]

Great thread Kim

I thought the same thing a few times but never came up with an answer.
Now we have the beginnings of an answer

Thank you

 

[countrymousenc]

Perhaps, but nothing binds their conscious. It isn’t considered a sin against faith if the agree to disagree. And the different documents of each faith varies with one another, which goes back to who do you believe? The one you choose to. There is no authority to tell them they made the wrong choice.

Shelb5, I didn't post the info to start a debate. If you want to continue, pick an appropriate forum and let me know.

 

[ej]

ouch @ countrymouse's new addition to her sig

Disclaimer: God isn't posting here; this is only my opinion.
(Btw, you're not God, either.)

 

[Christy4Christ]

i came across something yesterday in reading that i had never known before. in all my years of being a Christian i have never seen it explained this way and just thought i'd share.
in reference to when Jesus said on the cross, "My God, my God, why have you abondoned me?"
what i read was that it was the practice back then for people to memorize the entirety of the psalms and that when you wanted to remind someone of a certain psalm it was charicteristic to just quote the first line.
then go and read the entire psalm 22. where i always wondered what in the world Jesus meant and how in the world could God forsake His Son.....it just puts it into a whole new light!

 

[countrymousenc]

ouch @ countrymouse's new addition to her sig

LOL, just don't call me cactus!

 

[Benedicta00]

Shelb5, I didn't post the info to start a debate. If you want to continue, pick an appropriate forum and let me know.

I am not trying to debate this at all. You came into this thread to make a comment. I respond and said what I had to say. There is no need for a debate.