Provisions

[Jerrysch]

What are the Provisions of the New Covenant?
What relationship does the New Covenant have to the Mosiac Covenant?

 

[Hedgehog]

The new covenant tells of the indwelling of the Holy Spirit.
No more would they need teachers they would have the Interpreter to reveal the Truth to them.

Honestly I dont know what relationship it has with Mosaic Covenant.Eating of the tree of knowldge of good and evil was already suppose to have opened mans eyes as to what sin was.
Our new law is Love, act in love and all the law is covered anyways.
Moses law was a foreshadowing, promising earthly land, the new covenant has better promises that will not pass away IE: a heavenly land.

Does that answer it?

 

[Tractor1]

What are the Provisions of the New Covenant?
What relationship does the New Covenant have to the Mosiac Covenant?

"But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD, I will put MY law within them, and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be MY people. And they shall not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, Know the LORD, for they shall all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them, declares the LORD, for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more" (Jer. 31:33-37).

"And I will put My Spirit within you and cause you to walk in My statutes, and you will be careful to observe My ordinances" (Ezek. 36:26-37).

"And I will put My Spirit within you, and you will come to life, and I will place you on your own land" (Ezek. 37:14)."

The blessings of the new covenant/gospel of the kingdom are forgiveness of sin, the indwelling Spirit which enables Israel to keep and do all statutes and ordinances (law), and possession of the land promised.

Why would any member of the Church wish to share in Israel's new covenant, when what we've already attained in Christ is far superior?

In Christ,
Tracey

 

[Hedgehog]

Why would any member of the Church wish to share in Israel's new covenant, when what we've already attained in Christ is far superior?

Im not sure if debating is allowed here. So I will edit immediately if its not.

What is it we've been graffed into then?

At what point will all things be called into one for Him, if its not now already?Why would their be a time, now or in eternity where we are seperated, and then finally called into one?Or dont you believe all things will be called together into one, scripture says that doesnt it?

Why would God seperate out Jews who are saved under grace from Jews who were saved under the Old covenant, from their people forever?

Why would God give us gentiles a far more superior eternity, than the Jews who lived thru the horribleness of the law, who lived a servant role for Him? Certainly the ones who were saved out of that program would be the ones who were deserving of a better eternity then us.

Why would we want to (arrogantly) assume we have something better then them, doesnt Paul warn us of that?

Why would the Bible have so so little to say about this gentile eternity that is far superior. There are very few verses, just a few that say our citizeship is in the heavenlies... BUT 2Peter says Jews hope is in the heavenlies too( if you believe 2 Peter is for the Jews, not grace people)

 

[Hedgehog]

I will put MY law within them

Now would this be talking about Moses law, or the version Jesus spoke of, Love.

 

[Tractor1]

What is it we've been graffed into then?

In my understanding of (Rom. 11:16-24), the olive tree represents the place of spiritual blessings that result from the unconditional Jewish covenants, and the grafting in of the Gentiles or Church is a result of a literal fulfillment of the promise that “in Abraham all the families of the earth would be blessed” (Gen. 12:3). Now that Abraham’s Heir has appeared in Jesus Christ, the Church is blessed through Him (Gal. 3:26-29).

At what point will all things be called into one for Him, if its not now already?Why would their be a time, now or in eternity where we are seperated, and then finally called into one?Or dont you believe all things will be called together into one, scripture says that doesnt it?

I’m not sure I understand your question. Are you speaking in reference to “the summing up of all things in Christ” (Eph. 1:10)? If so that will take place in a yet future dispensation.

Why would God seperate out Jews who are saved under grace from Jews who were saved under the Old covenant, from their people forever?

Because He has different purposes for Israel and the Church. Scripture shows that there were two independent purposes in the Incarnation. One was on the Messianic side in relation to Christ’s office as King, and the other was on the mediatorial and redemptive side and to fulfill the Abrahamic covenant.

Why would God give us gentiles a far more superior eternity, than the Jews who lived thru the horribleness of the law, who lived a servant role for Him? Certainly the ones who were saved out of that program would be the ones who were deserving of a better eternity then us.

“In order that in the ages to come He might show the surpassing riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus” (Eph. 2:7).

Why would we want to (arrogantly) assume we have something better then them, doesnt Paul warn us of that?

There’s no arrogance. All Israel will be saved (Rom. 11:25-27), but the indwelling of the Spirit according to Israel’s new covenant is not the same as the baptism with the Spirit at Pentecost, which constituted the birth of the Church. Many errors in theological teaching come about through the failure to comprehend the distinctive, unrelated, and exalted character of the true Church (the living organism in contrast to the local organization). Through the baptism with the Holy Spirit each individual is joined to Christ in a union that is real, and it establishes an identity between Christ and the believer. This inturn creates the ground upon which all that Christ is may be imputed to those in Him. The new creation is what results from the union with Christ (2 Cor. 5:17-18; Gal. 3:27-28, 6:15; Eph. 2:10, 4:21-24; Col. 3:9-10).

Why would the Bible have so so little to say about this gentile eternity that is far superior. There are very few verses, just a few that say our citizeship is in the heavenlies... BUT 2Peter says Jews hope is in the heavenlies too( if you believe 2 Peter is for the Jews, not grace people)

I believe (2 Pet.) was written to members of the Body of Christ, not Jews of the old order.

In Christ,
Tracey

 

[Hedgehog]

Many errors in theological teaching come about through the failure to comprehend the distinctive, unrelated, and exalted character of the true Church

I guess we'd have to agree to disagree because I feel at this pint in my studying that theological errors come when one looks at Scripture with the same blinders that Israel had.

 

[Jerrysch]

Honestly I dont know what relationship it has with Mosaic Covenant.

It was an amplification of it. All the covenants after the Abrahamic Covenant are based upon it, and are amplifications of certian aspects of it.