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proving evolution as just a "theory"

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Well, this indoctrination leads to productive and functional contributors to society in scientific and biomedical research, evidence based medicine, farming and agriculture technologies, etc. The Theory itself is confirmed by finding after finding and lays a predictive framework that makes accurate prediction time and time again.

No, you can not credit Evolution Theory for those things. Those are repeatably measurable sciences not a theory. The paid scientists may advocate evolution, but they are being paid for saying that. There is an agenda and we know this, so let us not beat around the bush.

Now, Creationism on the other hand produces nothing of value besides indoctrination to its respective religion. It also inhibits its victims in participating in any of the above mentioned fields of contributing endeavour.

That is religiousism not creationism. Evolutionists are doing exactly the same thing, though with an antithesis narrative. What served the elites back then who fund the sciences are now behind another horse. ;)

Sure. I'm talking about changes in alleles in a population over time though, not biological metamorphosis.

Ok, so!

Again, I'm talking about changes in alleles in a population over time. There aren't any limits in this process, these alleles are known to accumulate mutations constantly, and if left unchecked in two sets of isolated populations that were once the same, they eventually lead to a speciation event where the two populations will eventually not be able to interbreed and then continue on to diverge in their appearances and functions forever, never being able to create viable offspring again - we see this in ring species as well as in horse/donkey hybrids, and lion/tiger hybrids, etc. This is literally the speciation event that means they'll never converge as one species ever again.

You have just proven that species are locked down and that hybridisation in its unadulterated meaning can never happen.

No, didn't you even read what I wrote? Is an Otter transitional? Is a Hippo transitional? How about Seals? Walruses? Manatees? All of these creatures have literally come from completely land-based mammal species and in all likeliness could probably themselves be transitioning to a Whale-like form too. In short, we have a very rich fossil record of the land mammal to sea mammal progression of the cetateans, do any of their fossils look like intermediate failures?

There is adaptation within the species and is expected, but it is not evolution from one species to a completely different one, that is a whale to a man, which accounts for evolution Theory teachings.

No, not just two, these are just two examples I can examine myself of the evolution from synapsids which the theory of evolution predicted would have been present in the fossil record - we're just lucky enough that these two made it through alive and aren't relegated to a footnote in the fossil record.

Your looking at the finite and neglecting what should have been on the macro, too numerous of failed neomorpha and xenomorphs species in the inbetween processes.

The Fossil record is a very rich record of the mammal transition from synapsids in its own right. We have thousands of them. Because we have thousands of them, we've been able to track the subtle gradient of the evolution of the mammalian middle ear from the four part jaw bones of the synapsid family we arose from:

Again it is adaptation and not evolution my friend. These defintions of terms can not be confused. You cannot use evolution whenever it is clearly an adaption process, which is absent of millions of millions of years of neomorph lifeforms that came into being but were unsustained. You would see a horror book of fossils and that you do not see.

See: 29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: Part 1 for a more comprehensive breakdown on what we know - feel free to point out something there and challenge it, we can work through it and see where your understanding goes wrong.

That is trying to claim a macro evolution and fails to provide the evidence and I find the terms confused again in an effort to sway me to think that the micro is somehow the macro and that adaptation is evolution. Come on friend, please, please.

Nope, Observation.

Really, so you are a well funded teacher and/or researcher for the Australian government who sets teaching policy right? Now how did I know that my friend? Good guess! ;)

I love Australia and Australians.
 
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Chapter and verse please since there was darkness or death upon the air, dust and water God created in the beginning. Gen 1:1-2 The question is WHEN did God make His Creation perfect?

This is not a religious debate friend. I kindly opt out of this, but you are welcome to join me in the Christian forums area to discuss it or send me a PM. My friend I apologise.
 
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No, I am saying that the prophecy of Genesis 1:28-31 has NOT happened, yet. It won't happen until the end of the present 6th Day/Age in the 7 Day creation of the perfect Heaven. Since the end of the creation is future, God's rest from ALL of His work of creating is also future. Gen 2:1-3 God will NOT rest/cease creating until then. Amen?

I will discuss with you and listen to what you have to say. You can PM me friend. Thanks in advance.
 
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The paid scientists may advocate evolution, but they are being paid for saying that. There is an agenda and we know this, so let us not beat around the bush.
What's the agenda?
 
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Please, just stop. This stuff is painful to watch.
This may be truer than you mean. Reading some of the nonsense posted by the likes of The Times and Aman777 is now making me physically ill. Elevated blood pressure, headaches and a desire to vomit. I am making increasing use of the Ignore button. I could just stop reading these threads, but I find posts from many other members, including several who are creationists are informative, interesting or challenging. Not something I would readily give up because of occassional outbreaks of lunacy.
 
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No, you can not credit Evolution Theory for those things. Those are repeatably measurable sciences not a theory. The paid scientists may advocate evolution, but they are being paid for saying that. There is an agenda and we know this, so let us not beat around the bush.

Except there are real biotech companies that apply evolution in various fields. In the cases of legitimate companies, there isn't really much of an agenda other than to use what works. And if evolution didn't work, it wouldn't be an applied science.
 
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Every group wants to grow and add legitimacy for their own beliefs.
Every group likes to make money.
It's not about status and prestige, it's about money. That's why biotech companies use evolutionary theory rather than creationism.
 
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You have just proven that species are locked down and that hybridisation in its unadulterated meaning can never happen.
Such information doesn't prove future events can't happen.
 
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It's not about status and prestige, it's about money. That's why biotech companies use evolutionary theory rather than creationism.

If you spend time in scientific circles, you find it's about status and prestige.
Which provides more money.
 
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Except there are real biotech companies that apply evolution in various fields. In the cases of legitimate companies, there isn't really much of an agenda other than to use what works. And if evolution didn't work, it wouldn't be an applied science.

It appears that way in a compartmentalized business entity. Who are their primary customers is what needs to be questioned.

The agenda is to unlock the DNA code to produce chimeras, the hybridization of species. They are breaking DNA and splicing by producing neomorphs, until they have a xenomorph, by which they will end up with a completely different species.

In nature we don't find neomorphs or xenomorphs. Yet these global power elittes are pumping trillions into this and are no doubt funding the evolution theory, alongside the transgender and transhumanist agenda, which will come to a post humanist era, which is the death of man. In the 20th century the elites killed God and in the 21st they seek to kill man.

Other than that, no agenda what so ever on the surface, just harmless research with trillions being pumped into it, for what one might ask.
 
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True my friend. They are being funded by the power elites in the trillions.
Species are being funded? I'd say they are under-funded based on
how many are disappearing each year.
 
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If you spend time in scientific circles, you find it's about status and prestige.
Which provides more money.

Yes that is right. But it is all compartmentalised and when the labs fail and are closed down, the scientists have accidents.
 
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The agenda is to unlock the DNA code to produce chimeras, the hybridization of species. They are breaking DNA and splicing by producing neomorphs, until they have a xenomorph, by which they will end up with a completely different species.
"Species" has about 16 definitions, so that's not a specific milestone.
 
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Yes that is right. But it is all compartmentalised and when the labs fail and are closed down, the scientists have accidents.

Auto accidents or in-the-shower accidents? Both are pretty common.
One of every 10 mountain climbers die in accidents.
 
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An excellent tribute to evolution by variation and selection. Not as succinct and beatiful as Psalm 19:1, but worthy nontheless.
This has zero to do with evolution. It has to do with creation. Tie it in with God creating everything after it's own kind. Not the same kind or from one kind but various kinds. And human kind was created special and apart from all other kinds. No this statement is completely against evolution from a common ancestor because it is used in context with the creation as stated.
 
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