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why thank you. I'll accept your implicit inability to address the evidence at face value.Have a very + day.
This seems to be an unwinnable corner to paint yourself into - are you sure your interpretation has to be this extreme to go against demonstrable evidence that contributes to your quality and longevity of life in every way? Plenty of Christians accept the sciences for what they are - progress and technology that gives us tangible quality of life.If one thinks that evolution does not condradict the omnipotence of God and what is in the Bible, then they being mislead and deceived by satan into to following his satanic worldly doctrines.
Tell me, Danoded, are you on the up-and-up here, or are you consol-ing us?If one thinks that evolution does not condradict the omnipotence of God and what is in the Bible, then they being mislead and deceived by satan into to following his satanic worldly doctrines.
Not bothered by the FACT you have not proved what I say is false. Nice
Not bothered by the FACT that you are not willing to cut and paste what you consider evidence to shut me up forever. Nice
You are acting exactly in the same way you are accusing me of acting. nice
Then verify it with more than words.
So anyone who disagrees with you is dishonest? Not nice.
What about someone who demands evidence for a series of events that didn't generate any evidence, and refuses to admit it?No someone who demands evidence then completely fails to address it is dishonest.
This seems to be an unwinnable corner to paint yourself into - are you sure your interpretation has to be this extreme to go against demonstrable evidence that contributes to your quality and longevity of life in every way? Plenty of Christians accept the sciences for what they are - progress and technology that gives us tangible quality of life.
Is it your position that God doesn't want this for us, but Satan does?
Tell me, Danoded, are you on the up-and-up here, or are you consol-ing us?
Your posts are cranking out one WINNER after another.
How can you rule out that your God is so amazing that he didn't leave anything to chance, but set the universe going in the exact way that all the chances would turn out exactly to be this universe and us in it as we are now? Is your God not able to do that? Did God write the bible, or did fallible men who maybe didn't understand everything about God and the universe, write it?Satan is the master of deception, trickery and deceit, it's his plan to lead as many people away from God as possible, and will use a multitude of people to do so, such as these 'scientists' claimin evolution happened, when it is clearly contradictory to what is stated multiple times in the Bible that God created all things and said that it was good. He did not leave anything to chance, and if people believe such then they are denying his omnipotence and his work in creating the Earth, with everything already perfect. Evolution contradicts the Bible, and is therefore 100% false.
How can you rule out that your God is so amazing that he didn't leave anything to chance, but set the universe going in the exact way that all the chances would turn out exactly to be this universe and us in it as we are now? Is your God not able to do that? Did God write the bible, or did fallible men who maybe didn't understand all about God and the universe, write it?
Too bad reality has billions of years of history that tells a very accurate and telling story of its entire existence... I have to go with reality, because this is where we are.Good question! I don't include it.
History, if it disagrees with the Bible, can take a hike.
But if God set it in motion, then he knows it isn't chance. We just think it's chance because we don't know any better - point still stands.God is the beginning and the end, he is all powerful and does not leave anything to chance, and nowhere in the Bible does it say that He did.
But do you agree that this universe is God's creation? Why would God's creation tell us something different to what an unnamed author wrote about his limited understanding of God? Is Satan more powerful than God?The Bible clearly outlines how he created Adam and Eve, and it is never written that they were the result of the evolution of primitive creatures. The Bible is the official Word of God without any errors, and it was written by man through God.
...then how on earth would you ever know it happened if there's no way to verify it? That's a very dangerous position to put yourself in...What about someone who demands evidence for a series of events that didn't generate any evidence, and refuses to admit it?
Curious as I keep re-reading this in anticipation, what presupposition would I hold? and what does "faith/belief of atheism" entail?? What would 'no' faith/belief in atheism look like??
Have you seen my Apple Challenge, which causes even the most educated here to avoid admitting that creationism didn't generate any evidence?
I'm not a YEC. My pastors are, but I am not. I consider myself, for lack of a better term, an Embedded Age Creationist.
Bugey,
Don't you have a presupposition that plant, animal and human life developed by survival of the fittest? That is, don't you have an evolutionary premise to describe the origin of the earth and the universe? Do you presume macroevolution?
As for faith/belief of atheism, it entails some of these dimensions articulated in:
- 'One Atheist's Creed';
- See the infidel's website for The Atheist's Creed, where somw or the presuppositions are:
Critique arguments for God's existence;
The problem of evil;
Morality and religion;
Miracles;
The motivations of belief, etc
I could discuss other presuppositional beliefs such as
Do you have any of these presuppositional beliefs?
- the nature of God/gods/no god;
- You believe in a material universe that conforms to naturalistic laws and principles;
- This life is the only life we will ever have;
- the power of science and reason and rationality for understanding that overcomes superstition of religion;
- etc.
Oz
Pull the other one, it has bells on. Quite appropriate for this time of year.As I understand it, necroing a thread is considered improper Netiquette.
But you do consider yourself to be Genghis Khan. Obviously what you consider to be real and what actually is real aren't necessarily the same thing.I don't consider myself a YEC.
As I understand it, necroing a thread is considered improper Netiquette.I don't consider myself a YEC.
This seems to be an unwinnable corner to paint yourself into - are you sure your interpretation has to be this extreme to go against demonstrable evidence that contributes to your quality and longevity of life in every way? Plenty of Christians accept the sciences for what they are - progress and technology that gives us tangible quality of life.
Is it your position that God doesn't want this for us, but Satan does?
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