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proving evolution as just a "theory"

Discussion in 'Creation & Evolution' started by Camila Smith, Sep 20, 2017.

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  1. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    QV my tagline.
     
  2. pitabread

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    Your tagline can take a hike.
     
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  3. Bugeyedcreepy

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    Are you of that silly camp that thinks 99.99% certain is the same as 0% certain? Good one, Sye Ten Bruggencate...
    Where does the 'law of genetics' say anything, let alone 'impossible'? Also, not entirely sure how to refute incredulous huffing.
    So tell me how a God with no body, no genes at all for bodies and no need for bodies, or worlds, or universes for that matter produce a living body with genes.

    Please include how a God originated from a nothingness before lifeless elements were even a thing.

    Also tell me why the first God existed and the science that cause it to exist.
    There is No doubt in the Scientific Community - on Survival, it Absolutely Is a mechanism for change! If two gazelles are born, one a tawny colour that melds in quite nicely with the savanna plains, and the other a hot fluorescent pink with bright orange glittery stars - have a wild guess at which one will likely be spotted, chased down and eaten by predators and which one will be likely to blend in with its environment to have further offspring? If you have no idea, you have no place being here on this part of the forum.
    There's an otter, it isn't extinct, has paws, runs on land and primarily eats food that isn't on land, so there it is.
    Pot calling the Silverware black...
    Self-deception much?
    Not sterile in the least. They all breed with their like just fine, they don't breed with the other end of the ringspecies chain. Address that part please...
    The Very Definition of Species is that they don't interbreed! The two ends of a Ringspecies don't interbreed, yet breed quite heartily with their own, and the connected subspecies beside it!
    This is Demonstrably false. You've been presented with evidence galore which you either "don't understand, so pick something out of the peer reviewed article to look at" or "it's just your opinion/cartoon pictures for kids" - you've never actually addressed the evidence, let alone countered it with anything meaningful. I contend it is a waste of time engaging you at all.

    Pigeon Chess.
     
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  4. Speedwell

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    Nowhere in the Bible is Jonah's fish called a "whale."
     
  5. AV1611VET

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    I beg your pardon?
     
  6. Speedwell

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    Chapter and verse?
     
  7. AV1611VET

    AV1611VET SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE Supporter

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    For the second time:

    Matthew 12:40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.
     
  8. tas8831

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    That is quite a low-bar criterion.

    So according to you, a Komodo dragon is like a dog?

    Yes - it really does.

    It tells me that evolution is likely NOT FALSE. Because evolution IS falsifiable, but has not been falsified, whereas creationism - being a scam - is unfalsifiable and therefore a mere fantasy.

    I'm guessing that you did not even notice that you trolled yourself into a big old fail.
     
  9. Speedwell

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    Mistranslation of the underlying Greek ketos which means "great fish" just like the Hebrew of the OT.
     
  10. Aman777

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    No and neither have you. Humans being created is an invisible Spiritual experience. It happens when a temporary person is changed into an immortal person who will NEVER die. It takes the agreement of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit to create an immortal creature. Gen 1:26 Gen 5:1-2 John 14:16
     
  11. Aman777

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    The scientific assumption is that the sons of God (prehistoric people) were Humans. This is totally FALSE and teaches our children that they are nothing but animals. The "common ancestor" of ALL Humans was FIRST made by the Hands of Jesus (His kind) on the 3rd Day Gen 2:4-7 and mankind was created and brought forth from WATER by the Trinity (Their kind) on the 5th Day. Gen 1:21 This is WHY Humans (descendants of Adam) MUST be born again Spiritually by the Trinity in order to enter Heaven.

    Today's Humans (descendants of Adam) are a combination of His kinds and prehistoric people. (Their kinds) This also explains WHY today's humans have the superior intelligence of God AND the DNA and ERVs of prehistoric people. God told us the whole story in Gen 6:1-4. IF you cannot understand it, I will be happy to show you the correct meaning of those four verses. Amen?
     
  12. Aman777

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    The premise is false since Neanderthal had a bigger brain than Cro-Magnon. Brain size is NOT an indication of the difference between Humans (descendants of Adam) and the sons of God (prehistoric people). The difference between Humans and animals is shown by the superior intelligence of Humans who inherited our superior intelligence from Adam.

    Mindless Nature, given eons of time with numerous mutations does NOT produce the intelligence of God in Apes, no matter how many times that lie is repeated. In order to be an Ape, one must inherit Ape intelligence. In order to be a Human, one must inherit Human intelligence because Nature does NOT have the ability to produce something which it does NOT have, in Humans. That's WHY the False ToE is such a terrible assumption. Amen?
     
  13. 2tim_215

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    Why is common ancestor more "logical" or "rational" than Common Creator? That would certainly explain the similarities in DNA and closeness of some Genomes, in a much simpler fashion BTW. Why is more complex better? And the more complex, the more difficulties and more problematic. Putting aside "Earth Age" which many seem to want to continue to "harp" on, really proves nothing either way, it's in the eye of the beholder. I take a Creator God which has documentary evidence going back 4000 years (or more) over billions of years of "supposed" evolutionary theory any day of the week.
     
  14. Aman777

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    A submarine is sometimes called a fish and Adam's entire firmament was like a submarine, surrounded by water. Gen 1:6-8 It would have been really easy for Jesus to prepare a great fish, like a submarine, to keep Jonah safe underwater. Amen?
     
  15. 2tim_215

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    The Bible doesn't specifically says "whales" (KJV) it calls it a big fish (back then the word mammal didn't exist, it's just a man made term which came later on). However, it could have been a whale, we just don't know. Just like, the fruit that Adam and Eve ate off the tree of "the Knowledge of Good and Evil" was probably not an apple. We just don't know what it was.

    Is that so important? What's important is that we know what it resulted in. Just like the Bible doesn't specify Earth Age. It's just that men (on both sides of the fence) like to speculate on what they don't really know.
     
  16. TLK Valentine

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    You didn't say "superior intelligence" before, you said reason.

    It must be such an inconvenience when people call you out for shifting goalposts.

    Are you saying that animals are incapable of learning... anything?


    Now you're just babbling. "Superior intelligence..." To what?
     
  17. Bungle_Bear

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    Do you understand how babies are made? If so you should know that becoming sterile would lead to extinction.
     
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  19. omega2xx

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    Evidently you do not understand what verifiable means.
     
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