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Funny you should mention that. Here's a quote from a MD who practiced medicine for over 20 years.
"Not one example could be put forth of the need for evolution (or belief in its tenets) in order to practice modern medicine." -Dr. Tommy Mitchell, MD from Vanderbilt University School of Medicine.
Figures...lol! There's a doctor to avoid.... I wonder if he administered any vaccines to anyone...?
EDIT: Nope, no, turns out he doesn't practice medicine anymore - apparently preaching pays better!Lists of creationist scientists - RationalWiki
Perhaps you could answer his challenge then and give one example of the need for evolution (or belief in its tenets) in order to practice modern medicine.
I think he makes a very valid point. If modern medicine is predicated upon the ToE then it behooves those making this claim to back it up. However since we know that there is not a single documented example of a finely graduated chain of fossils leading from one major form to another, nor a single example of an observed random mutation adding new and beneficial gene increasing type information to the genome of a multi celled organism, then I can't see how it could.
So all things alive today are 'advanced'?No I said that the less advanced life is often found in the deeper strata layers and the more advanced shows up in the upper layers,
which is what you would expect to find if they had all been deposited in one world wide global flood.
However you made the claim that they are not found this way and you expected me to prove you wrong. That's not how it works. You get to prove your case. I will be more than happy to support mine but I won't run around trying to disprove yours.
Well here's some that I'm sure you will find irrelevant along with their irrelevant publications.
Grant Lambert biochemist (and creationist)“Enzymic Editing Mechanisms and the Origin of Biological Information Transfer,” (Journal of Theoretical Biology, 107 [1984]: He states that without editing enzymes, primitive DNA replication, transcription, and translation would be completely overcome by incredibly high numbers of errors. However the editing enzymes are made themselves by DNA. This is an incredible argument for design. Lambert never openly exclaims his creationist world veiwpoint and leaves the readers in a dilemma as an unresolved problem in biologic theory (p.401), and I am sure that for this reason many of my oponants here wont count his paper, but by all reasonable standards it is countable.
D. Axe "Estimating the prevalence of protein sequences adopting functional enzyme folds." (Journal of Molecular Biology), Vol. 341 (2004): 1295-1315. His study found that functional protein folds are extremely rare, only about "one in 1064 signature consistent sequences forms a working domain and that the overall prevalence of sequences performing a specific function by any domain-sized fold may be as low as 1 in 1077." Axe's conclusion is that "functional folds require highly extraordinary sequences." And because evolution theory says that only organism with a functional advantage are preserved, his study shows how difficult it would be for such a blind mechanism to produce functional protein folds. The study also demonstrates that there are high levels of very specific and complex structures in enzymes, a predicted indicator of intelligent design. Conformation that this study adds to the evidence for intelligent design has even been made by Axe himself in other interviews. But again, in the actual paper he does not wave his creationist banner high and mention creationism or intelligent design for that matter for obvious reasons.
Michael J. Behe & David W. Snoke "Simulating Evolution by Gene Duplication of Protein Features That Require Multiple Amino Acid Residues," (Protein Science), Vol 13:2651-2664 (2004).
John Bracht, CiteSeerX "Inventions, Algorithms, and Biological Design,"
John Bracht, Metanexus “The Bacterial Flagellum: A Response to Ursula Goodenough,” Views, 2003.01.16.
Stephen Meyer “The Origin of Biological Information and the Higher Taxonomic Categories,” , PROCEEDINGS OF THE BIOLOGICAL SOCIETY OF WASHINGTON 117 (2004): 213-239.
Lönnig, W. “Dynamic genomes, morphological stasis and the origin of irreducible complexity,” DYNAMICAL GENETICS (2004), pp. 101-119.
William A. Dembski THE DESIGN INFERENCE: ELIMINATING CHANCE THROUGH SMALL PROBABILITIES, (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 1998).
Scott Minnich and Stephen C. Meyer “Genetic Analysis of Coordinate Flagellar and Type III Regulatory Circuits,” , Proceedings of the Second International Conference on Design & Nature, Rhodes Greece, edited by M.W. Collins and
C.A. Brebbia (WIT Press, 2004).
Meyer, S. C DNA and the origin of life: Information, specification and explanation, in Darwinism, Design, & Public Education, .(Michigan State University Press, 2003), Pp. 223-285
Lönnig, W.-E. Dynamic genomes, morphological stasis and the origin of irreducible complexity, Dynamical Genetics, Pp. 101-119.
Jonathan Wells "Do Centrioles Generate a Polar Ejection Force?," , Rivista di Biologia/Biology Forum 98 (2005): 37-62.
A. Voie, "Biological function and the genetic code are interdependent," Chaos, Solitons and Fractals, Vol 28(4) (2006): 1000-1004.
David L. Abel & Jack T. Trevors, “Self-organization vs. self-ordering events in life-origin models," Physics of Life Reviews, Vol. 3:211–228 (2006).
S.C. Meyer, "The Origin of Biological Information and the Higher Taxonomic Categories," Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington, 117(2) (2004): 213-239.
W.-E. Lönnig & H. Saedler, "Chromosome Rearrangements and Transposable Elements," Annual Review of Genetics, 36 (2002): 389-410.
So mobility is the hallmark of advancement?Layers get laid down covering less mobile (more primitive) organisms while the more mobile scurry out and the next layer comes in over and over until only the most mobile organisms make to the top and are finally covered over and succumb.
Wow...No, it’s like just being able to admit to yourself that they use virus to insert genomic material into specifics cells. Nothing random about it except in your invalid argument....
Not common ancestory, common infection and what we call genome therapy, just on a natural, not laboratory scale.
that conjures up a marvellous image......
Why should Giant sloths want to outrun anything. they do not even try that today. Their tactic is disguise, stillness, and keeping out of reach.
It's not really that exceptional, especially when dealing with aircraft that operate in remote areas. It's more the norm in those situations.
Now on the flipside, you could argue that the logos do have functional importance but they aren't necessarily conserved within a given set of objects. For example, there are plenty of trucks, mugs and roofs not bearing the Ford logo. So in that context, the Ford logo wouldn't necessarily be an indication of a conserved design within a given class of objects.
There is not a single solitary fossil in any museum that supports evolution. Every single fossil for any type remains the same for every fossil found of that type......
they are excellent swimmers and can hold their breath underwater for 40 minutes and swim 3 times faster than they move on land.How would that fare in the face of rising flood waters?
here are several kinds of aircraft:
as you can see- all of them shared wheels.
of course, since those objects were made by different designers.
So, given a genome and no other information, how would you tell if it was designed by a human or ocurred naturally?we also know that humans designed genomes.
That's been my point all along. We are are the descendents of Adam. We do not have a common ancestor with spiders and monkeys.Depends on your outlook. ALL Humans are the descendants of Adam. We have the superior intelligence which ONLY Adam and God have Gen 3:22 AND we also have the DNA of ancient prehistoric people in our genetics. Our common ancestor is Adam.
And we also know that humans designed flying contraptions, therefore humans invented birds?we also know that humans designed genomes.
not humans but any intelligent.
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