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proving evolution as just a "theory"

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the best ANSWER: ask your friend to evolve into a feathered creature........
why has evolution stopped?
give credit to the mastermind behind these marvelous creation.....
Since when has evolution stopped?
 
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Since when has evolution stopped?

It never began if we are talking common ancestor evolving into all there is. Human has always been human, spider has always been spider, bird has always been bird and fish has always been fish.
 
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Ah yes we do have DNA. Evidence of common design. Bacteria are not human. Neither are chimpanzies. We are different from beetles and spiders. I always have to specify completely different cause if I don't evolutionists always say things like "what about this kind of beetle, it changed into the color of beetle". I mean show me a beetle that changes into something that is not a beetle. That's completely different.
 
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It never began if we are talking common ancestor evolving into all there is. Human has always been human, spider has always been spider, bird has always been bird and fish has always been fish.

I love how the further creationists get away from humans, the broader the allowance for evolutionary change becomes.

You do know that birds, spiders, and fish represent entire classes and/or orders of organisms represented by thousands of individual species, right?

Heck, there are almost 50,000 individual known species of spiders alone.

"Spider has always been spider" indeed...
 
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You said something along the lines of how important believing in evolution is for our survival. My point is that is nonsense and I pointed that out. The fact that God created all there is, is not necessary to find medicines and know how to best raise crops. Believing in evolution from a common ancestor is not necessary to find medicines and know how to best raise crops.
Knowing there is common design is extremely helpful when it comes to medical research.
 
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You said something along the lines of how important believing in evolution is for our survival. My point is that is nonsense and I pointed that out.

All you did was make allusions to the fact that there was a time when we survived with less knowledge than we have now. Which is true, but unless you're actively advocating for stopping the quest for knowledge to improve our technology, society and general well-being, you really don't have a point.

Believing in evolution from a common ancestor is not necessary to find medicines and know how to best raise crops.

And yet evolution (inc. phylogenetics which is the study of evolutionary relationships) is an applied science within those very fields, particularly with respect to modern genomics.

Knowing there is common design is extremely helpful when it comes to medical research.

You won't find any evidence of a "common design" scientific model in any medical research.
 
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Yep and they are still spiders! Imagine that! And they always have been since the beginning. Jusy like humans.
 
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Yep and they are still spiders! Imagine that! And they always have been since the beginning. Jusy like humans.

You missed the point completely.

Saying things like "fish has always been fish" or "spider has always been spider" is like saying "mammals have always been mammals".

You're implicitly accepting a level of evolutionary change far beyond something like common ancestry between humans and other primates.
 
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You missed the point completely.

Saying things like "fish has always been fish" or "spider has always been spider" is like saying "mammals have always been mammals".
That is what is observed. Take a Poodle and introduce it back into the wild and in five generations you will not have a poodle, but you will have a dog. What you will not have is a poodle on a one way trip to becoming a cockroach. It is a variation within a means not a one way trip to the moon.
 
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Both Christ and Paul preached often and to many. You condemn BradB for preaching?

Brad can preach what he likes. The thing is, this is the science portion of the forum and he will be asked to support his claims.

If that is uncomfortable, there are Christian only sections he can preach.
 
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Brad can preach what he likes. The thing is, this is the science portion of the forum and he will be asked to support his claims.
Support yours. Prove common ancestry.

If that is uncomfortable, there are Christian only sections he can preach.
And there are nonChristian forums, so?
 
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Brad can preach what he likes. The thing is, this is the science portion of the forum and he will be asked to support his claims.

If that is uncomfortable, there are Christian only sections he can preach.

Well, if "science only" means that scripture is considered unreliable then I'm in the wrong forum.
 
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Right, they can form in various ways, ergo, not evidence of a global flood. In fact, if you are basing your claims of a flood on the biblical account I’ll go further and say that these fossils are evidence against it, such violent flood waters erode trace fossils.
 
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