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Would you like to shut up those who believes in evolutionism? Ask them how mutations add up.
Seems like an abuse of power.
Look mate I ask you to go do the research on the fossil in question. The scientific images, that show what was actually found show a single skull with around five small bone fragments.
You can start around the 5:50 time mark...
Would you like to shut up those who believes in evolutionism? Ask them how mutations add up.
I gave you plenty of good examples in my initial reply. Why are you so hung up on the fossil record? There are so many fossils we've found that demonstrate the fact of evolution, it's not even that interesting anymore. Answer this question: What features would a fossil have that would, in your mind, demonstrate evidence for evolution? This should help everyone here provide you with examples.
You can actually learn a lot about an animal by looking at it's bones. For example, you can figure out their diet just by looking at their teeth. You can figure out of an animal walked upright by looking at it's hips. Like Australopithecus Afarensis had bipedal hips but also had long ape like arms and curled fingers.
Or we could sequence genomes of other animals and compare it to ours and it shows overwhelming evidence for decent with modification and that we share a common ancestor. It's an independent study that comes to the same conclusion as the fossil record and in my opinion is far more interesting.
Starting at a conclusion and working backwards, twisting facts to support that conclusion is not scientific. That's pseudoscience. Your friends at creationist websites are notorious for that. It's why they can't get published in a reputable publication.
There are all sorts of fossils found. Sometimes it takes several finds to reconstruct a species because only parts of it are found at first. That was the case with Homo erectus. The first find was just a thighbone, a skull cap, and a tooth. But the person that found them was knowledgeable enough to realize that the came from a member of the Homo genus, but that they were not Homo sapiens. Creationist sites will often pretend that that is all that has been found, but in reality they have found hundreds, from the very well preserved sample (meaning it is almost all their) Turkana Boy:Look mate I ask you to go do the research on the fossil in question. The scientific images, that show what was actually found show a single skull with around five small bone fragments. Yet you evolutionist gods have created from this fossil an entire skeleton to prove to me that evolution really did occur. Compare your pictures to reality. Stop accusing me of being unscientific when I look into the facts.
PROVE IT, OR REMOVE IT CHALLENGE
...indoctrinated into the theory of evolution...
...I don't plan to remain silent...
...Scientific jargon makes it impossible for the average man to understand...
...bamboozled by science talk...
...If you can’t provide me with proof from the only historical record we have, then you have been taught a lie, evolution never occurred...
...partially developed wings on lizards...
With all due respect, as it relates to you having NO choice if you feel as though you do not want your son to go to government school there is private school ( more affordable than some thing as well as home school.PROVE IT, OR REMOVE IT CHALLENGE
My son has just started his first year of primary school, which is a good thing and a bad thing. Good in that he will be learning how to read, count all those good things. Bad in the fact that for the next 13 years he will be indoctrinated into the theory of evolution. A choice over which I have no power. So I don't plan to remain silent, I plan to challenge the government to either "prove or remove" evolutionary teaching.
So here is my challenge to all my evolutionist friends, and other interested parties. Scientific jargon makes it impossible for the average man to understand if evolution is true or false. We don't understand RNA, DNA, etc, so we have to remain silent and trust others. But there is one way that the average man CAN fight back, and that is by using the fossil record. We can all understand and SEE fossils. We see fossils of dinosaurs, horses, birds, so from the very beginning of creation until now we have a record of animals that have lived. So really what should we expect to see in the fossil record, we should expect to see changes between species, wild and dramatic changes, partially developed wings on lizards, something turning into a monkey. But the real truth is we don’t see any of those things happening. We only see different sized monkeys being called our ancestors, or different sized horses being said to have evolved. But think of Dogs (alive today) there a big dogs called Great Danes, and small, dogs, even tiny ones. If all put in a row from small to big they would look like what we have been told is evolution.
So my challenge to you is this, before I contact our government, tell me can you PROVE evolution using the fossil record, the only thing we can all understand and see. The only thing a court of normal citizens could determine using reasoning of the average man, without being bamboozled by science talk. My challenge is don’t give me a list of text names of supposed fossils, I want to see pictures, for if evolution is true there must be millions of them out there, and surely scientists want us to see them; we have thousands of species, supposedly all evolved. Can you find them? If you can’t provide me with proof from the only historical record we have, then you have been taught a lie, evolution never occurred.
So my challenge to you is this, before I contact our government, tell me can you PROVE evolution using the fossil record, the only thing we can all understand and see. The only thing a court of normal citizens could determine using reasoning of the average man, without being bamboozled by science talk. My challenge is don’t give me a list of text names of supposed fossils, I want to see pictures, for if evolution is true there must be millions of them out there, and surely scientists want us to see them; we have thousands of species, supposedly all evolved. Can you find them? If you can’t provide me with proof from the only historical record we have, then you have been taught a lie, evolution never occurred.
Are ya any good at mathematics? Did you even have basic high school algebra where the first thing they teach you is to apply the variables to both sides of the equation???PROVE IT OR REMOVE IT
PROVE IT, OR REMOVE IT CHALLENGE
I want to see pictures, for if evolution is true there must be millions of them out there...
Hi in regard to one of the earlier posts where Keith miller Supposedly proved evolution in the video new finds show he was incorrect http://www.icr.org/article/new-research-debunks-human-chromosome
If your worried about it then buy a High School Biology book used from Amazon. They do not cost very much. Then you can read the book and you and your son can go over the book and study it together. I would like to know what your problem is with the actual book that they are going to teach from. Because what your saying here has nothing to do with the Biology Book and what the school teaches. They revise those books often, so if you have a problem let them know and maybe they can take that into consideration in the next revision. My son is going to graduate this year from High School and we talk all the time about what he is learning in school. I think he would like me to be involved even more in what he is doing. Also we just had an election with the board of education and a women was thrown off and replaced with someone that we felt would represent us. So maybe you can get active and run for the board of education so you could be a part of the decisions that are made regarding the school system. Also there is the PTA you can get involved and opportunities for coaching or for being a scout leader. All kinds of different ways to get involved in helping people to raise their children. You can attend your local Bible college and take Sunday school teacher classes to teach Bible to the students. So there are lots of opportunities for parents to get involved.PROVE IT, OR REMOVE IT CHALLENGE
My son has just started his first year of primary school, which is a good thing and a bad thing. Good in that he will be learning how to read, count all those good things. Bad in the fact that for the next 13 years he will be indoctrinated into the theory of evolution. A choice over which I have no power. So I don't plan to remain silent, I plan to challenge the government to either "prove or remove" evolutionary teaching.
So here is my challenge to all my evolutionist friends, and other interested parties. Scientific jargon makes it impossible for the average man to understand if evolution is true or false. We don't understand RNA, DNA, etc, so we have to remain silent and trust others. But there is one way that the average man CAN fight back, and that is by using the fossil record. We can all understand and SEE fossils. We see fossils of dinosaurs, horses, birds, so from the very beginning of creation until now we have a record of animals that have lived. So really what should we expect to see in the fossil record, we should expect to see changes between species, wild and dramatic changes, partially developed wings on lizards, something turning into a monkey. But the real truth is we don’t see any of those things happening. We only see different sized monkeys being called our ancestors, or different sized horses being said to have evolved. But think of Dogs (alive today) there a big dogs called Great Danes, and small, dogs, even tiny ones. If all put in a row from small to big they would look like what we have been told is evolution.
So my challenge to you is this, before I contact our government, tell me can you PROVE evolution using the fossil record, the only thing we can all understand and see. The only thing a court of normal citizens could determine using reasoning of the average man, without being bamboozled by science talk. My challenge is don’t give me a list of text names of supposed fossils, I want to see pictures, for if evolution is true there must be millions of them out there, and surely scientists want us to see them; we have thousands of species, supposedly all evolved. Can you find them? If you can’t provide me with proof from the only historical record we have, then you have been taught a lie, evolution never occurred.
I just had a read of the dolphin evolution again you said it was a land animal then went back to the sea. Are you for real... Can you imagine a fully developed land animal able to hunt and live on land ... For no reason ... Sits around in the water long enough to be come a fish ... And you think the story of Jonah is a lie. All this reasoning from three skulls.
That is what makes the Bible different. The Bible can be confirmed by Science to be a fact. Science also helps us to properly understand the Bible. Theophilus, talks about this in his letters or books that he wrote. He was a lot closer to when Homer wrote his books and when all the other Greek Myths were being told. There is no indication that Homer believed in God. At best the Greek Myths had truth and error mixed together. The Bible can be confirmed to be accurate and true and the Bible contains no errors. Yes there are translation problems and there are problems with the interpretation of the Bible. So not everyone understand the purity of the message we are able to receive from the Bible. What they call the written word of God.All cultures have their creation myths, none of which are scientific fact.
Here is a link showing 10 court cases dealing with this issue.I plan to challenge the government to either "prove or remove" evolutionary teaching.
Proof is not a scientific concept. Nothing we regard as scientific fact can be "proven", so your premise is flawed. [/thread]PROVE IT, OR REMOVE IT CHALLENGE
My son has just started his first year of primary school, which is a good thing and a bad thing. Good in that he will be learning how to read, count all those good things. Bad in the fact that for the next 13 years he will be indoctrinated into the theory of evolution. A choice over which I have no power. So I don't plan to remain silent, I plan to challenge the government to either "prove or remove" evolutionary teaching.
So here is my challenge to all my evolutionist friends, and other interested parties. Scientific jargon makes it impossible for the average man to understand if evolution is true or false. We don't understand RNA, DNA, etc, so we have to remain silent and trust others. But there is one way that the average man CAN fight back, and that is by using the fossil record. We can all understand and SEE fossils. We see fossils of dinosaurs, horses, birds, so from the very beginning of creation until now we have a record of animals that have lived. So really what should we expect to see in the fossil record, we should expect to see changes between species, wild and dramatic changes, partially developed wings on lizards, something turning into a monkey. But the real truth is we don’t see any of those things happening. We only see different sized monkeys being called our ancestors, or different sized horses being said to have evolved. But think of Dogs (alive today) there a big dogs called Great Danes, and small, dogs, even tiny ones. If all put in a row from small to big they would look like what we have been told is evolution.
So my challenge to you is this, before I contact our government, tell me can you PROVE evolution using the fossil record, the only thing we can all understand and see. The only thing a court of normal citizens could determine using reasoning of the average man, without being bamboozled by science talk. My challenge is don’t give me a list of text names of supposed fossils, I want to see pictures, for if evolution is true there must be millions of them out there, and surely scientists want us to see them; we have thousands of species, supposedly all evolved. Can you find them? If you can’t provide me with proof from the only historical record we have, then you have been taught a lie, evolution never occurred.
Reinterpreting the Bible after the fact does not mean that the Bible was right.That is what makes the Bible different. The Bible can be confirmed by Science to be a fact. Science also helps us to properly understand the Bible. Theophilus, talks about this in his letters or books that he wrote. He was a lot closer to when Homer wrote his books and when all the other Greek Myths were being told. There is no indication that Homer believed in God. At best the Greek Myths had truth and error mixed together. The Bible can be confirmed to be accurate and true and the Bible contains no errors. Yes there are translation problems and there are problems with the interpretation of the Bible. So not everyone understand the purity of the message we are able to receive from the Bible. What they call the written word of God.
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