PROVE EVOLUTION

[Karl - Liberal Backslider]

hey hey hey. there is no difference. what it say is that man was created after beast in chapter 1. in chapter2 it say that adam was going t name them all not that they were made.

yes Mokuso you read it wrong.

Sorry, Mirror old boy, but in Chapter 2 it says exactly that God made the animals after man, and what's more, it says why - to give Adam some company.

If "alone" simply meant no other humans, it makes no sense for God to attempt initially to remedy this situation - as Genesis 2 clearly states - by making animals.

Mokuso is seeing what is there. You, IMO, are forcing yourself to read it through a preconceived commitment to absolute harmonisation.

 

[lucaspa]

youre still not geting it. when it says that Adam was alone it mean that there were no other humans with him. not that he was literaly alone.

Gen 2:18 "And the LORD God said, [It is] not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Gen 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought [them] unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that [was] the name thereof.

Gen 2:20 And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. "

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gen/Gen002.html#19

It's very clear. Adam is all alone. No people, nothing else. Notice the future tense in Genesis 2:18. God will make. Not that they were there already. Then in Genesis 2:19 God forms the animals and birds. Adam names them. But none of them are a helpmeet for Adam.

Sorry, a plain reading of the text is not what you are saying.

 

[lucaspa]

if your out in the dessert and there is nobody around for miles its safe to say youre alone. even if there are animals your still alone.

But if there were animals, then God did not need to form them. They were already formed. But that isn't what Genesis 2:19 says. What's more, the animals and birds are made to give Adam some company so that he is not alone. But they don't work. So God has to make Eve.

 

[lucaspa]

animals have only basic instict. if man and ape came from a comon ancester it was because that ancester had a need to evolve. so Y in the world evolve into an ape?

Let's get rid of this idea of "need to evolve" as though the individuals are directing the evolution of the population. They are not. Evolution is something that happens to a population, not directed by the population.

The reason apes evolved from the common ancestor to the present species is the same way humans evolved: they can earn a good living being what they are.

The populations that would become apes continued to live in forests and have designs that enable them to do so. They do have some thinking ability but they do not have the ability to make tools to make tools. But they can earn a very good living without that.

The populations that would become humans had adaptations that allowed them to walk upright. This enabled them to move out to the savannah and exploit that new environment. Living on the savannah was a different enviornment and favored different designs than living in the forest. So the two lines diverged because they faced different environments.

 

[secretdawn]

They should not have gone extinct....none of the other animals did.

Evolution predicts cousins...so where are they? The cats have them.

i don't think so, but is it possible that our cousins are different races?

 

[lucaspa]

i don't think so, but is it possible that our cousins are different races?

Since they are our species, no. However, we may have some new cousins if the speciation already underway for the !Kung and some other populations continues. We will have new species of Homo, all descended from H. sapiens.

But Ark Guy is wrong. Evolution is quite happy with our evolutionary cousins going extinct. These were H. erectus, H. neandertalis, and H. heidelbergensis. We all competed for the same ecological niche -- sentience. Only one could win because there was no geographical area that the others could hide in.

This has happened with other species. Horses are down from dozens of species to just 2. Elephants are in the same situation -- dozens of species just 20,000 years ago and now only 2.