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Yeah - me too. Sadly.I 'm not a cessationist, however I am someone who has seen an immense amount of fraud and nonsense passed off as religion.
From your mention of Lutheran exorcism.
If the denom takes no position nor train its clergy then it is not a "Lutheran" thing at all.
Do the other Lutheran groups (ELCA, WELS, Etc) take the same stance?
I am not surprised that Martin Luther did that. It may have been a contributing factor to his change of heart on the Jews later in life. (the demons came back on him perhaps?) A series of small strokes is also a possibility.
If the demon "laughed at a blessed object" it was not a blessed object. Rabbits feet and 4 leaved clovers don't count.I have seen demons laugh at "blessed objects." Or have no reaction at all. That is not a valid test.
I have done research on it, and that is part of the reason I do not believe the RCC's procedure is valid. Sorry if that upsets your feelings.
No, you are not hurting my feelings at all. At least the Catholics see the need. Most protestants do not even acknowledge demonic existence. Like all the demons died at the cross or something. (never mind those pesky verses in Acts where Paul dealt with them)I don't mean to hurt your feelings but Protestants have seemed to be less than capable in this area.
In a very hypothetical situation, would it be right or "ok" for a Non-Catholic man, typically Protestant of some sort, to dedicate his life to the study of Demons, the Occult and, if necessary, carry out exorcisms? Or should we leave it all to the Catholics (mainly the exorcisms part)?
C.S. Lewis once said, "There are two equal and opposite errors into which our race can fall about the devils. One is to disbelieve in their existence. The other is to believe, and to feel an excessive and unhealthy interest in them."
In every case where it is noted, when a demon is driven out of a person by the authority of Jesus, there is an obvious physical manifestation of some kind. That usually does NOT happen at salvation.2. Proclaim the gospel of Jesus Christ to the person. If they get saved, the demon(s) are driven out by the indwelling Holy Spirit.
In a very hypothetical situation, would it be right or "ok" for a Non-Catholic man, typically Protestant of some sort, to dedicate his life to the study of Demons, the Occult and, if necessary, carry out exorcisms? Or should we leave it all to the Catholics (mainly the exorcisms part)?
C.S. Lewis once said, "There are two equal and opposite errors into which our race can fall about the devils. One is to disbelieve in their existence. The other is to believe, and to feel an excessive and unhealthy interest in them."
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