What follows are two posts of what I discussed on the server with other members
based on the two stage sessions that I had participated in.
Post discussing first stage session:
stuff I brought up by this morning which was what I brought up with "politics & religion server member" my second visit on the server. after going over it with some other people on the server, seems pretty legit. first were questions I asked and then some statements.
is the universe intelligent
are humans just animals or something more
is water needed for life
why isn't hell scary if hollywood is pushing it on the population by
the definition of destruction, death, violence, damage, corruption,
and the dumbing down of the peoples common sense while being
an aspect of the leadership of the world and its institutes based on
knowledge and education.
good and evil is the basis of wisdom and the use of knowledge
to one end or another
and are not labels but realities about the nature of our universe as it stands
today
I personally have a dichotomy of order that I subscribe to by a logic and yes
I believe in morality, God, creation, and Jesus.
The order being of what was placed here
Good
Bad, mistake and error
corruption to the point where mistakes and accumulation of error begins to change
the nature of the original state of a being or thing or subject or idea whether concrete or ideal before it can be proven to be true, truth
and finally the final state of corruption being evil
the dichotomy being
Good
bad
corruption
and
Evil
the question about hell was because the title of the stage session was Why hell isn't scary.
My last note on that post was "I'm assuming it was called because of the atheist view"
.............................
My propositions and dialogue for the second stage session
which was posted:
while the science community is building up
the data and evidence for the many facets of reality, the actuality of meaning to the words we use that are not concepts of intellect but are actual aspects of the natural world, numbers and science are still far from finding the many of the unknown unknowns. Yes I got that from boondocks. So for the most part I'll be asking questions and using alot of what if's and hypotheticals because you said it yourself that you have not found any evidence for the existence of God. So all I have to work with in this conversation is hypotheticals.
So to begin we already established on this stage session that animals have very resilient and unpredictable behavior and make choices that show some evidence
of a greater nature than just part of the animal kingdom. What was mentioned is that animals have and do save and help other animals including rivaling species and in some rare cases which if you can verify. Do predatory animals on occasion save or help prey animals? Do prey animals on occasion help a predatory animal, animals that are predatory can develop companionship and bonding relationships with animals of its species prey. This is interesting but back to my point, animals save humans, humans save animals which give the word salvation quite a bit of actual meaning to the word.
Is there the possibility that there is greater expressions of salvation.
Of course this is a axiom, but because I will not be proving that God exist tonight or tomorrow, maybe on wednesday but not today. By the way the 15th is Yon Kipper, Day of Atonement.
So theres an interesting dynamic going on the stage which I'd like to address. Its you "said P & R server member" who take the position of an athiest,"said P & R server member" is a Diest, It be nice if there was more than one of us who have the view of a moralist Creator God who's principles and will the earth and universe is based on.
Preferably Christian.
So I'd like to know what is "P & R member" views on his Diest beliefs.
So you can analyze and describe the biology, geography, the history
of life on earth, the cosmology of the universe, and the atomonical properties of the element fabrics the physical. Its my understanding there are many forms of energy
that are much lighter in density leaving entirely the solid state, liquid state, gas state, spectrums of light, and sound vibrational aspects which are beyond our ability to detect, measure, locate or identify. So we're still a long ways away from finding
many truths that will alter our current science paradigm that will change our current
predictive technology
but you can't see the meaning of there being a narrative or will occuring within this world?
in the hypothetical premise that we live in a intelligent universe
we can see that the world is full of life that comprises of sentient, conscious, autonomous life systems that many a time are symbiotic. With this much organization from everything from our balanced atmosphere, our fertile soil, our cycle of redistribution of water and other elements that replenish the life systems which we call our ecosystem.
You had asked why God puts us through the seemingly vain process of living a life of survival, strife, pain, and evil. Is there the possibility of evil. The evil of men,
man's predisposition to be drawn towards greed and selfishness, and prefers vanity and
overindulgence in his pursuits of his own interests and pleasures.
.........................
This is what I discussed in the stage sessions that were available until recently. I resolved some of the spelling errors that were on the original text for this post.
For the most part was denied on the server by people with credentials and others saying that there is no meaning to life.
based on the two stage sessions that I had participated in.
Post discussing first stage session:
stuff I brought up by this morning which was what I brought up with "politics & religion server member" my second visit on the server. after going over it with some other people on the server, seems pretty legit. first were questions I asked and then some statements.
is the universe intelligent
are humans just animals or something more
is water needed for life
why isn't hell scary if hollywood is pushing it on the population by
the definition of destruction, death, violence, damage, corruption,
and the dumbing down of the peoples common sense while being
an aspect of the leadership of the world and its institutes based on
knowledge and education.
good and evil is the basis of wisdom and the use of knowledge
to one end or another
and are not labels but realities about the nature of our universe as it stands
today
I personally have a dichotomy of order that I subscribe to by a logic and yes
I believe in morality, God, creation, and Jesus.
The order being of what was placed here
Good
Bad, mistake and error
corruption to the point where mistakes and accumulation of error begins to change
the nature of the original state of a being or thing or subject or idea whether concrete or ideal before it can be proven to be true, truth
and finally the final state of corruption being evil
the dichotomy being
Good
bad
corruption
and
Evil
the question about hell was because the title of the stage session was Why hell isn't scary.
My last note on that post was "I'm assuming it was called because of the atheist view"
.............................
My propositions and dialogue for the second stage session
which was posted:
while the science community is building up
the data and evidence for the many facets of reality, the actuality of meaning to the words we use that are not concepts of intellect but are actual aspects of the natural world, numbers and science are still far from finding the many of the unknown unknowns. Yes I got that from boondocks. So for the most part I'll be asking questions and using alot of what if's and hypotheticals because you said it yourself that you have not found any evidence for the existence of God. So all I have to work with in this conversation is hypotheticals.
So to begin we already established on this stage session that animals have very resilient and unpredictable behavior and make choices that show some evidence
of a greater nature than just part of the animal kingdom. What was mentioned is that animals have and do save and help other animals including rivaling species and in some rare cases which if you can verify. Do predatory animals on occasion save or help prey animals? Do prey animals on occasion help a predatory animal, animals that are predatory can develop companionship and bonding relationships with animals of its species prey. This is interesting but back to my point, animals save humans, humans save animals which give the word salvation quite a bit of actual meaning to the word.
Is there the possibility that there is greater expressions of salvation.
Of course this is a axiom, but because I will not be proving that God exist tonight or tomorrow, maybe on wednesday but not today. By the way the 15th is Yon Kipper, Day of Atonement.
So theres an interesting dynamic going on the stage which I'd like to address. Its you "said P & R server member" who take the position of an athiest,"said P & R server member" is a Diest, It be nice if there was more than one of us who have the view of a moralist Creator God who's principles and will the earth and universe is based on.
Preferably Christian.
So I'd like to know what is "P & R member" views on his Diest beliefs.
So you can analyze and describe the biology, geography, the history
of life on earth, the cosmology of the universe, and the atomonical properties of the element fabrics the physical. Its my understanding there are many forms of energy
that are much lighter in density leaving entirely the solid state, liquid state, gas state, spectrums of light, and sound vibrational aspects which are beyond our ability to detect, measure, locate or identify. So we're still a long ways away from finding
many truths that will alter our current science paradigm that will change our current
predictive technology
but you can't see the meaning of there being a narrative or will occuring within this world?
in the hypothetical premise that we live in a intelligent universe
we can see that the world is full of life that comprises of sentient, conscious, autonomous life systems that many a time are symbiotic. With this much organization from everything from our balanced atmosphere, our fertile soil, our cycle of redistribution of water and other elements that replenish the life systems which we call our ecosystem.
You had asked why God puts us through the seemingly vain process of living a life of survival, strife, pain, and evil. Is there the possibility of evil. The evil of men,
man's predisposition to be drawn towards greed and selfishness, and prefers vanity and
overindulgence in his pursuits of his own interests and pleasures.
.........................
This is what I discussed in the stage sessions that were available until recently. I resolved some of the spelling errors that were on the original text for this post.
For the most part was denied on the server by people with credentials and others saying that there is no meaning to life.
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