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If by the Spirit, I am humbled to receive illumination from God from His words, and if I listen to the voice of Christ who speaks within, then I understand all that He desires for me to know.
BobRyan said:absolute proof God exists.
1. Pick up a flower - study it closely.
2. now throw it way.
3. Pick up your chemistry set.
4. Make a living flower using your chemistry set alone.
Hint: The Urey-Miller failure
I have a much better idea.
absolute proof meaningless waffle.
1. Pick up a flower - study it closely.
2. now throw it way.
3. No third step.
4. Make a living flower using your immaterial mind alone.
Hint: Creatio ex-nihilo
A sporting chance at what?Yes but then you don't give the atheists a sporting chance.
College football is much better and it is on the sabbath. So does God also watch football on the sabbath too? I hope He does. I do!
How do you know that the voices you hear in your head are God and not something else?
Sometimes you wish it really were so.
And that too. But I am not really seeing a lot of it. On the other hand, maybe the constant spewing of nearly meaningless platitudes and apologetic sophistry is merely a means of drowning out these accusation(s)?
Yes but then you don't give the atheists a sporting chance.
All this shows is that a home chemistry set can't make flowers. Nothing to do with your deity - try again.
(And apparently god can make pretty flowers yet can't make a christian that can argue)
A Christian is one who follows Christ. Not one who argues with people.
Christ said that the world would know that we are His disciples by the love we have for one another, not by how we argue with people.
You have got no living flower, have you?
(I am not really serious here. I know you can't. Immaterial minds creating stuff. LOL)
Scientists are unable to simulate life coming from non-life in a controlled experiential environment, and yet some want us to believe that this could happen in an uncontrolled, hostile, unintelligent, chaotic environment at random.
This is why many do not accept naturalistic origin of life theories.
The same way you know your loved one is on the other end of the phone when you are talking to them.
Scientists are unable to simulate life coming from non-life in a controlled experiential environment, and yet some want us to believe that this could happen in an uncontrolled, hostile, unintelligent, chaotic environment at random.
This is why many do not accept naturalistic origin of life theories.
So when scientists are able to do exactly that, you will be prepared to accept a naturalistic explanation to the origin of life?
Not really, since one has experience of one's loved one in the flesh, which provides a necessary basis for comparison. It's because one can compare one's in-person experience with a phone-voice that one is able to verify that person's identity as a flesh-and-blood individual, instead of, let's say, a deceptive computer generated voice.
What you are talking about is completely subjective every step of the way. It's not any way to distinguish between a purely psychological experience and a deity.
eudaimonia,
Mark
Wait a minute ... You are not able to produce a flower or even just a grain of sand with just using your immaterial mind. And yet you claim that an immaterial mind is capable of creating whole universe(s).
I expect you to become Agnostic now.
(No, I wasn't serious here with the last comment. I don't expect any such a thing; it would be foolish. Oh .... And never forget, I am not a naturalist. I mean, in case you wish to follow the usual apologetic MO of trying to shoot down self-same naturalism.)
So when scientists are able to do exactly that, you will be prepared to accept a naturalistic explanation to the origin of life?
So your honesty goes from being a facade expressed to others to being outright expelled by you. You're not interested in the truth. You will assume and will always assume that any kind of explanation of anything given to you that discards the presumption of necessity of involving God is false. You will literally consider it some kind of deception.In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
If what scientists ever try to convince us is contradictory to this truth, then it is a lie, and why would anyone want to believe a lie?
I don't believe any "beliefs" about God are accurate, including mine. But I don't see that as having anything to do with having God as one's reality.The strengths of your beliefs doesn't show how accurate they are.
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