Many young-earth creationist believers are intolerant of any views that might call into question their particular interpretation of scripture.
Most YEC are indifferent to the arguments of science falsely so called. What is more the Scriptures are clear that we all trace our lineage back to Adam and no further. This is not my interpretation, this is exactly what Paul says repeatedly and ties the sin of Adam to the need for justification in no uncertain terms. One has to wonder why we need redemption, why we were condemned under the Mosaic Law and why Christ had to be crucified in order to deliver us from bondage to sin and death. That is, of course, if you don't know what the New Testament teaches.
When the law came it condemned sin, that sin came as the result of, 'many died by the trespass of the one man' (Rom. 5:15), 'judgment followed one sin and brought condemnation' (Rom. 5:16), the trespass of the one man, death reigned through that one man (Rom. 5:17), 'just as the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men' (Rom. 5:18), 'through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners' (Rom. 5:19).
They'll deny scientific tests and experiments which validate the big bang theory, age of the earth, age of the universe, etc.
They are often skeptical on mainstream consensus only to have their views dismissed as ignorance. No matter how many scientific facts that are accumulated in support of the view of YEC the naturalistic assumptions of Darwinism is never called into question. You are making sweeping generalizations that are both untrue and unfair characterizations.
They have placed so much faith in this interpretation of scripture that they are incapable of accepting anything contrary to it, even if it can be shown to be biblical.
Again that is simply not true, I am open to a persuasive line of evidence but reserve the right to remain unconvinced. I could make a seamless transition to a TOE perspective on natural history if not for essential doctrine being at stake. None the less, I could make some adjustments if I concluded a figurative Genesis 1,2. The fact is that the evidence is far from conclusive and the way TEs disparage or ignore essential doctrine leaves me plenty of room for skepticism.
They will speak in the most un-Christian manner to anyone with a contrary opinion. They have to do this because their faith is based on a shaky premise, and if that domino is toppled, their faith is lost. They use tactics similar to the tactics used by political liberals against their conservative opponents.
You do know that liberals are unanimously evolutionist right? My faith is not subject to your idle conjecture and fallacious lines of reasoning. I'm amazed that you would have the nerve to hurl such shallow indictments against Christians who have the convictions that the Scriptures are reliable. I wish I could say I was surprised.
I have been the focus of some of these attacks because of my willingness to believe in an old-earth creation (the big bang), Noah's flood being local instead of global, the origins of the Nephilim, the gap theory, etc. But amongst believers, I am comforted that I am not alone.
Thats nice.
Familiar with the site, whats your point.
I do not believe our endless discussions on these points are ever going to end, at least not until after we leave this life behind. But we should treat our fellow Christians with respect, even if we disagree with them on interpretation of scripture. Old-earth creationists are Christians. Accept it. I ask for nothing more. Prologue ends.
Old earth creationists may or may not be Christians, it depends on why. The age of the earth makes no difference to me, the creation of life on earth could have happened long after the original creation of the universe.
Mark 10:6 - "But from the beginning of creation, God MADE THEM MALE AND FEMALE. [NASB]
Examining Mark 10:6 | Reasons To Believe
I don't really know why TEs are oblivious to the New Testament's teaching on the subject but once more an exposition of essential texts becomes necessary:
The book of Romans tells us that God's invisible attributes and eternal nature have been clearly seen but we exchanged the truth of God for a lie (Rom 1:21,22). As a result the Law of Moses and the law of our own conscience bears witness against us, sometimes accusing, sometimes defending (Rom 2:15). We all sinned but now the righteousness of God has been revealed to be by faith through Christ (Rom 3:21). Abraham became the father of many nations by faith and the supernatural work of God (Rom 4:17). Through one man sin entered the world and through one man righteousness was revealed (Rom 5:12) or as shernen said it, Adam’s dragging everyone down into sin. It looks something like this:
1) Exchanging the truth of God for a lie, the creature for the Creator.
2) Both the Law and our conscience make our sin evident and obvious.
3) All sinned, but now the righteousness of God is revealed in Christ.
4) Abraham's lineage produced by a promise and a miracle through faith.
5) Through one man sin entered the world and death through sin.
6) Just as Christ was raised from the dead we walk in newness of life.
7) The law could not save but instead empowered sin to convict.
8) Freed from the law of sin and death (Adamic nature) we're saved.
The Scriptures offer an explanation for man's fallen nature, how we inherited it exactly is not important but when Adam and Eve sinned we did not fast. This is affirmed in the New Testament in no uncertain terms by Luke in his genealogy, in Paul's exposition of the Gospel in Romans and even Jesus called the marriage of Adam and Eve 'the beginning'.
As we can see, this verse taken out of context would show the bible to be in error. God did not make humans male and female at the beginning of creation, but at the end. If you say His creative work continues, then you're saying that the days were longer than 24 hours. Is God still in His 7th day of rest? We KNOW the bible is not in error, so it must be our understanding of the style the Jewish writers of the Old and New Testaments used. Let's not strain for a minute point and miss then truth the Word of God is conveying to us.
Yea, let's not miss what the Word of God is saying:
Sin originated with Satan Isaiah 14:12-14, entered the world through Adam Romans 5:12, was, and is, universal, Christ alone excepted ; Romans 3:23; 1 Peter 2:22, incurs the penalties of spiritual and physical death ; Genesis 2:17; 3:19; Ezekiel 18:4,20; Romans 6:23 and has no remedy but in the sacrificial death of Christ ; Hebrews 9:26; Acts 4:12 availed of by faith Acts 13:38,39. Sin may be summarized as threefold: An act, the violation of, or want of obedience to the revealed will of God; a state, absence of righteousness; a nature, enmity toward God. (Scofield Commentary)
And let us not forget that the motives of evolutionists might not be benign:
‘Darwinism destroyed the dogma of the Fall upon which the whole intellectual fabric of Christianity rests. For without a Fall there is no redemption, and the whole theory and meaning of the Pauline system is vain.’ (Wells, H.G., Anticipations of the Reactions of Mechanical and Scientific Progress Upon Human Life and Thought)
The Bible is a book of history and our true lineage is found there, not in the modern mythology of Darwinian evolution. Essential doctrine is at stake and while you can accept evolution as natural history in part rejecting the creation of Adam and original sin runs contrary to Christian Orthodoxy. Accepting human evolution is not a rejection of orthodoxy but the rejection of the special creation of Adam and original sin definitely is. Believing that land dwelling creatures became amphibians, transposed into whale and dolphins are certainly interesting ideas but would have no bearing on doctrinal issues. The doctrine of justification by faith has a central focus, the sin of Adam and it's inextricably linked to special creation. Darwinism knows no bounds, it is actively seeking inroads to Christian conviction.
You are not alone but I'm not impressed with the company you are keeping.
Have a nice day
Mark
