Project for the New American Century

[Blemonds]

Not even that. That act of exercising broad military power to achieve a national interest is pretty much the definition of imperial dominion.

I guess so, if one is susceptible to conspiracy theories.

 

[EvilDr.Frog]

How can I get a copy of this manifesto?

 

[EvilDr.Frog]

Hey, I found it, I'll be damned. Check page 63 of this link: http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

 

[k]

where is it on the website?

http://www.newamericancentury.org/publicationsreports.htm

Scroll to the bottom of the page and click on:

[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategy, Forces and Resources For a New Century

A Report of the Project for the New American Century
September 2000[/font]
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[voice-in-the-wilderness]

I guess so, if one is susceptible to conspiracy theories.

Or common sense, logic and reason.

 

[k]

Here is another page that summarizes the manifesto:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3249.htm

 

[praying]

pg 51

In general, to maintain American
military preeminence that is consistent with
the requirements of a strategy of American
global leadership, tomorrow’s U.S. armed
forces must meet three new missions:...

• Global missile defenses. A network
against limited strikes, capable of
protecting the United States, its allies
and forward-deployed forces, must be
constructed. This must be a layered
system of land, sea, air and spacebased
components.
• Control of space and cyberspace.
Much as control of the high seas – and
the protection of international
commerce – defined global powers in
the past, so will control of the new
“international commons” be a key to
world power in the future. An
America incapable of protecting its
interests or that of its allies in space
or the “infosphere” will find it
difficult to exert global political
leadership.
• Pursuing a two-stage strategy for of
transforming conventional forces. In
exploiting the “revolution in military
affairs,” the Pentagon must be driven
by the enduring missions for U.S.
forces. This process will have two
stages: transition, featuring a mix of
current and new systems; and true
transformation, featuring new
systems, organizations and
operational concepts. This process
must take a competitive approach,
with services and joint-service
operations competing for new roles
and missions. Any successful process
of transformation must be linked to
the services, which are the institutions
within the Defense Department with
the ability and the responsibility for
linking budgets and resources to
specific missions.

Control of cyber space?

 

[EvilDr.Frog]

I guess so, if one is susceptible to conspiracy theories.

Blemonds, do you understand the definition of the word, "conspiracy"? That is where people work together to achieve a common goal. Look it up. Extra connotations include secrecy and nefarious intent. So what do you call the PNAC?

 

[drboyd]

No wacko conspiracy theories for me. No siree! I like 'em right out in the open, like PNAC, where they all sign their names in broad daylight.

I guess so, if one is susceptible to conspiracy theories.

 

[k]

pg 51


Control of cyber space?

I am no expert on the matter (obviously ), but when thinking in terms of politics I always try to keep in mind that money and power are the key motivators. Cyberspace has already changed the face of commerce, nationally and internationally, and as global goals are achieved one of the major money makers will be cyberspace. Internet sales for this Christmas shot up about 24% from last year. I think of cyberspace in rough terms of the television in that the changes that tv helped bring, so will cyberspace in its own right and respect.

I am sure there are many other reasons, but that is what I can think of for right now.

 

[praying]

I am no expert on the matter (obviously ), but when thinking in terms of politics I always try to keep in mind that money and power are the key motivators. Cyberspace has already changed the face of commerce, nationally and internationally, and as global goals are achieved one of the major money makers will be cyberspace. Internet sales for this Christmas shot up about 24% from last year. I think of cyberspace in rough terms of the television in that the changes that tv helped bring, so will cyberspace in its own right and respect.

I am sure there are many other reasons, but that is what I can think of for right now.

No I understand why they would want to, just the idea of it. Actually the idea of the whole thing (PNAC) unnerves me and like I said if I wasn't American i would have some real serious objections to those views being represented in the upper echelons of the admin.

 

[k]

No I understand why they would want to, just the idea of it. Actually the idea of the whole thing (PNAC) unnerves me and like I said if I wasn't American i would have some real serious objections to those views being represented in the upper echelons of the admin.

Oops! My mistake, please forgive me. It unnerves me as well, which is why I think it is crucial to know about the PNAC before one can assess the actions of the current admin.

 

[EvilDr.Frog]

Control of space and cyberspace.
Much as control of the high seas – and
the protection of international
commerce – defined global powers in
the past, so will control of the new
“international commons” be a key to
world power in the future. An
America incapable of protecting its
interests or that of its allies in space
or the “infosphere” will find it
difficult to exert global political
leadership.

The Internet is the last refuge of free speech. I am terrorized that the PNAC neo-cons might get their tentacles around it as they intend.

 

[k]

The Internet is the last refuge of free speech. I am terrorized that the PNAC neo-cons might get their tentacles around it as they intend.

YES!! Knew there was something I left out! lol

 

[Blemonds]

Blemonds, do you understand the definition of the word, "conspiracy"? That is where people work together to achieve a common goal. Look it up. Extra connotations include secrecy and nefarious intent. So what do you call the PNAC?

It appears that several people are working together to achieve a common goal, distortion of facts. Yes, I do know what a conspiracy is.

 

[EvilDr.Frog]

It appears that several people are working together to achieve a common goal, distortion of facts. Yes, I do know what a conspiracy is.

That's right, Blemonds, something as simple as several people working together to spread rhetoric is a conspiracy. Now I want you to read the conclusion of "Rebuilding America's Defenses."

It is also a wise program. Only such a
force posture, service structure and level of
defense spending will provide America and
its leaders with a variety of forces to meet
the strategic demands of the world’s sole
superpower. Keeping the American peace
requires the U.S. military to undertake a
broad array of missions today and rise to
very different challenges tomorrow, but
there can be no retreat from these missions
without compromising American leadership
and the benevolent order it secures. This is
the choice we face. It is not a choice
between preeminence today and
preeminence tomorrow. Global leadership
is not something exercised at our leisure,
when the mood strikes us or when our core
national security interests are directly
threatened; then it is already too late.
Rather, it is a choice whether or not to
maintain American military preeminence, to
secure American geopolitical leadership,
and to preserve the American peace.

Tell me how far astray my conspiracy theorist attitude led me to assert that the goal of the PNAC is American imperial dominion.

 

[Blemonds]

That's right, Blemonds, something as simple as several people working together to spread rhetoric is a conspiracy. Now I want you to read the conclusion of "Rebuilding America's Defenses."


Tell me how far astray my conspiracy theorist attitude led me to assert that the goal of the PNAC is American imperial dominion.

You bet. Just change the words global leadership to American imperial dominion and voila, conspiracy.

 

[EvilDr.Frog]

You bet. Just change the words global leadership to American imperial dominion and voila, conspiracy.

As far as I'm concerned, we are on the same page. I see very little difference between the two phrases.

 

[The Shredder]

Ah PNAC, if you are trying to defend those that subscribe to this agenda and justify it with your Christian teachings, I think one really needs to crack open the Bible to see if it would be right for any country to use their military might in order to push an invasion of a country just to make that country's ideals the same as yours.

It's kind of like the Civil Rights movement. If the entire movement was a bloody rebellion where blacks killed white people, would that be justified since they're goal is equality? Remember the end does not justify the means no matter how good it is.

If I go and disembowel people involved in criminal behavior to "clean up" my community, my actions are wrong regardless of my intentions.

 

[Blemonds]

As far as I'm concerned, we are on the same page. I see very little difference between the two phrases.

That's why its a conspiracy theory. It has nothing to do with reality, but rather reads between the lines, changes words to make something to be other than what it really is. The more I think about this, the more I realize how many people are being sucked into it. Its like those cults you see on TV news