Progressive

[.chrys.]

Sorry to have misunderstood the purpose of this thread. I thought it was intended to discuss what the term Progressive Adventism means in general, not specifically to these fora, and sub-fora.

For purposes of discussion on these fora, I will operate under the assumption that Progressive Adventism is defined as outlined by the forum moderators/administrators.

My apologies,
~Witness

 

[Sophia7]

The OP was written in the context of the forum definitions, but this discussion also encompasses other aspects of the issue. You haven't done anything wrong.

 

[freeindeed2]

I still favor Evanglical Adventist over Progressive. It has a less humanistic sounding name. Evanglicals Still hold to the lifestyle issues, that is called discipleship. They still Hold to the 6000 year or so creation. Jesus is still the creator.
Which do they disagree with, currently I disagree with.
1. the Investigative Judgement.
2. Ellen White as a prophet.

others my have more but that is it.

My list is many points longer than yours. I grew up in a staunchly conservative/traditional SDA home (4th generation). I went to SDA schools, including 3 different universities over 8 years of higher learning. I worked for the church for over 10 years and was an SDA for 35 years.

IMO, being a progressive SDA means that you differ with traditional SDAism on one or more of the 28 Fundamental Beliefs. My question is how many can you disagree with and still be an SDA? And how many of the are absolutely essential?

 

[Sophia7]

Good question.

 

[DarylFawcett]

How does it read in the baptismal vows we raised our hands to prior to our being baptized?

 

[freeindeed2]

How does it read in the baptismal vows we raised our hands to prior to our being baptized?

The baptismal vows I took are different than the one's people take today. They've changed along the way, significantly in some areas.

 

[Sophia7]

When I was baptized, I wasn't asked to raise my hand or even state whether I agreed with all Adventist beliefs. Even now, many pastors don't ask people to affirm publicly the baptismal vows or the 28 fundamentals.

 

[DarylFawcett]

Last summer at our campmeeting, those who were baptized were not publically given the baptismal vows in which they were to raise their hands in response, however, it was done that way all the previous campmeetings. I would assume though that it was done in a more private setting?

 

[freeindeed2]

When I was baptized, I wasn't asked to raise my hand or even state whether I agreed with all Adventist beliefs. Even now, many pastors don't ask people to affirm publicly the baptismal vows or the 28 fundamentals.

True. I'm not sure how many baptisms I did over 10 years, but I never once had them agree to SDA beliefs or the vows publicly. In my mind, I never baptized them into membership of the SDA church either. However, technically they did still sign the vows, which means they did accept them including the fundamentals, and by signing they did get their names added to the book of life--I mean SDA membership books!

So, maybe I didn't accomplish anything, but I felt much better only baptizing them into Jesus Christ than into a denomination. And even though they still signed the statement, I felt better about not having them state publicly that they accepted all things SDA. Thankfully we are saved by grace and not a denomination.

 

[.chrys.]

Thankfully we are saved by grace and not a denomination.