professor driving me nuts

[ReformedChapin]

My college professor said the bible orignially had more books but later in time they cut some of them out and just added the old testament. He was reffering to the gnonistic gosples. Can someone please give me a bit of information about the composition of the bible and the relevance of the gnostic gosples. Thanks =]
By the way I know he lying about some stuff, he's made serveral statements that I looked up and found untrue. I just need more information on the subject.

 

[SOLDOUT4HIM]

This is something you need to be very wary of. The gnostic gospels are very new-agey stuff. A good idea is to go to your pastor about this and pray about it. God'll show you. I had a professor who espoused them and he was a stinkin' fruitcake. I am quite sure this was a problem in the early church (one of the heracies that the new testament authors dealt w/).

 

[ReformedChapin]

anyone else....common people I need help!!

 

[.Mikha'el.]

By the way I know he lying about some stuff, he's made serveral statements that I looked up and found untrue. I just need more information on the subject.

This would be another example. His statement is completely false.

 

[PaladinValer]

Are you sure he is referring to the Gnostic books and not what is often called the "Apocrpha?"

My answer depends on which books.

 

[Sploge]

it ses that if any oen shall modify the bible. i assuem add things or take things out. then they shall liek i dunno not make it to heaven in a nice way to put it. lol

i dont htink that one person woudl have changes the bible so al had to be reprinted the same again. woudl seem a bit pointless.

they were talkgin abou on the TV though that they had foudn a page that was supposed to be in the front of the bible and it said on it...

"all characters in this novel were based on a not true event no body was actually hurt in the makings of these stories"..

i foudn that a bit funyn at the tiem and they figured out later it was a FAKE tohugh. of coarse... but still info for ya. LOL

 

[Psalms101]

Firstly, when the first copies of the Bible were intact, there was only about one handwritten copy of all of the books for quite a large area, therefore, there werent THAT many copies, and secondly MOST areas didnt even have all of the books. THere wasnt a cohesive 1 volume collection until atleast 300AD (I cant remember the exact yr) and even then, there still werent many. The RCC (only church besides Eastern Orthodoxy at the time) established what was deemed the inspired Word of God, and combined in them in one collection. THe copying of the Bible was done by monks,who were also copying the treatises written by RCC theologians, so the Bible was not their only focus. (not to mention many were illiterate and were just mimicking shapes) THey later revised, and deemed the books of the Apcorphia (sp?) as true, but not nessacarily inspired, so they removed them from the Bible.

 

[servant4ever]

My college professor said the bible orignially had more books but later in time they cut some of them out and just added the old testament. He was reffering to the gnonistic gosples. Can someone please give me a bit of information about the composition of the bible and the relevance of the gnostic gosples. Thanks =]
By the way I know he lying about some stuff, he's made serveral statements that I looked up and found untrue. I just need more information on the subject.

Is this a Christian or a public university?

 

[ReformedChapin]

Is this a Christian or a public university?

public

 

[ReformedChapin]

I was reffering to the books such as this which has the gosple of thomas and mary magdeline...he said that all of those were included in the original bible.

 

[PaladinValer]

He's wrong.

Historically, they were never included in either various canon lists nor declared official canonical books in the Patriarchical councils or local synods.

 

[ReformedChapin]

what we're the orginally books of the original bible? was there such a thing as the original bible?

 

[PaladinValer]

Well, the official list that was canonized in each of the five Patriarchies included what Protestants (speaking generally) call the "Apocrypha."

Other than that, there are no differences, although the Greek Septuagint included even more books, whose canonical status are truly up to individual churches. These books, like 3 Maccabees, Prayer of Manasseh, Psalm 151, and 1 Esdras), are accepted as Canon in the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Oriental Orthodox Church. In addition, many Anglicans, including myself, include them too, to which we are free to do so. These books are what Vatican Catholics and Old Catholics call "Apocrypha."

There is also a book called "2 Esdras," (really, 3 Esdras, since originally Ezra and Nehemiah were one books, which is the real 2 Esdras) which some Eastern Orthodox and Anglicans accept. It is known as 4-6 Ezra in the Vulgate. It is Apocrypha to all other EOs and Anglicans, as well as to Vatican Catholics, Oriental Orthodox, and Old Catholics.

 

[ascribe2thelord]

My college professor said the bible orignially had more books but later in time they cut some of them out and just added the old testament. He was reffering to the gnonistic gosples. Can someone please give me a bit of information about the composition of the bible and the relevance of the gnostic gosples. Thanks =]
By the way I know he lying about some stuff, he's made serveral statements that I looked up and found untrue. I just need more information on the subject.

The Gnostic Gospels are not accepted by the Roman Catholic Church. Though I'm as anti-Catholic as Protestants come, I tend to avoid any book that Catholics don't accept ... since they have been the leading authority on Biblical accuracy for some 1700 years now. I have read the books of the Apocrypha and there is something to be learned from them, although I don't see them as worthy of inclusion as the rest of the books in the Bible.

 

[FriarTuck]

Emperor Constantine ordered fifty bibles or so. The cannon that was accepted at the time the order was placed was what was used. That's pretty much the cannon we have now. During the time leading up to that "final" cannonization many books fell in and out of favor.