My dad just got an 18 month old dog which is a german shepard/lab mix. He is a good dog, but needs some work with obedience, and manners in general. For instance, today we gave him a bath, during which he was very good, and let us wash him. However, afterwards when we were done, he just went crazy, and would not calm down. He doesn't understand that it is ok to play, but not to nip at/bite people. Also, he is real fond of jumping up on people despite us telling him no. Any suggestions on how I could fix these problems?
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well, for my black lab puppy we used a spray bottle of water, every time he misbehaved, we sprayed it (on spray~not stream) into his face...it worked VERY WELL... and he is the most well-mannered dog!! 
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usually it just startles them, and then you can divert their attention to acceptable behavior, they are a lot like kids! (not that I spray mine with a water bottle... )
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put a lead on him, and make him sit when you have visitors to the door and use food rewards when he sits on comand.
after bathing, take him for a walk for 1/2 hr to an 1hr so he is almost dry.
after bathing, take him for a walk for 1/2 hr to an 1hr so he is almost dry.
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For my dogs any teeth on skin, or a growl receives a firm squeeze on the muzzle until the dog makes a squeak, as a puppy. When the dog is older it is whapped on the muzzle with a magazine rapped in duct tape (I have not had to do this concerning aggression with people if the squeeze is done correctly early on). Only do these if you have established dominance over the dog.
For jumping, a squirt bottle with vinegar, or if you use a choke collar put a rope tab on it and when the dog jumps jerk it down. Or you can pinch the webbing between its toes.
I knew a lady who was a dog trainer who used a wired judo like move on one of my Great Danes (the dog was probably larger than she was) when it jumped on her. She some how spun him in mid air and through him down on the ground still do not know how she did that, but the dog never jumped again.
Also always add a command when disciplining: no Bite, no jump, off, or whatever you want just be consistent.
I have never really been a big fan of treats for obedience (for tricks I could see using them). Firm correction and lots of praise have resulted in many great dogs; not only mine but many other peoples I know, and you do not have to be reliant on treats.
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For jumping, a squirt bottle with vinegar, or if you use a choke collar put a rope tab on it and when the dog jumps jerk it down. Or you can pinch the webbing between its toes.
I knew a lady who was a dog trainer who used a wired judo like move on one of my Great Danes (the dog was probably larger than she was) when it jumped on her. She some how spun him in mid air and through him down on the ground still do not know how she did that, but the dog never jumped again.
Also always add a command when disciplining: no Bite, no jump, off, or whatever you want just be consistent.
I have never really been a big fan of treats for obedience (for tricks I could see using them). Firm correction and lots of praise have resulted in many great dogs; not only mine but many other peoples I know, and you do not have to be reliant on treats.
Sincerely,
zoink
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Our dog is ver frightened by people, she was whacked because she kept biting people, she is now really fealful and scared of people, doesn't trust anyone that much. but i have done another trick thats worked well on her.
Have you heard of Monty Roberts the horse breaker?
I lounge my dog with a leadrope (doesn't matter how long) around me both sides walk and jog(can be hard) and i have gotten her to stand still, put a lead on her, pick up her legs, and even touch her face which she wouldn't let me do originally without biting.
and she sometimes comes up to me and rubs her head under my arm. she will sit at my feet now.
hope this helps.
chocker chains are fine for a dog medium to large such as labradors, golden retriever etc, german shepards.
but do not use chocker chains on toy, or small dog.
try a harness instead
Have you heard of Monty Roberts the horse breaker?
I lounge my dog with a leadrope (doesn't matter how long) around me both sides walk and jog(can be hard) and i have gotten her to stand still, put a lead on her, pick up her legs, and even touch her face which she wouldn't let me do originally without biting.
and she sometimes comes up to me and rubs her head under my arm. she will sit at my feet now.
hope this helps.
chocker chains are fine for a dog medium to large such as labradors, golden retriever etc, german shepards.
but do not use chocker chains on toy, or small dog.
try a harness instead
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My personal experiences with dogs have led me to feel that the best way to train is through positive reinforcement. I have never once had to use any sort of force on my dogs to teach them what to do and what not to do. For biting and nipping, I yelp like another dog would, remove my self from their mouth, say no and ignore them. After a few, I give them an appropriate toy for them to chew on. As far as jumping on people, I take their paws and put them on the floor while saying no. Also, basic obedience training, such as teaching them to sit is the best. My dogs know that sitting down when I come home or when they meet someone new gets them a treat or extra praise whereas jumping on me or a new person gets them a no and a "time out". As someone else suggested, a spray bottle can be a good diversion tool, however, your dog may enjoy the water. I have two that absolutely love water and could care less that they were getting sprayed.
I would suggest lots of exercize (He's a sheperd/lab mix, both are high energy dogs) as well as some basic obedience classes for your dog. You have to remember, dogs don't understand english, or whatever language you speak. We have to teach them what each word means and we have to to teach them what is acceptable behavior and what is not. Also, someone suggested a choke collar. PLEASE PLEASE don't use a choke collar. When used inappropriately (as most people use them. They are very difficult to use appropriately) they can cause extreme damage to the dogs neck, including causing the trachea to collapse. I would recommend a halter, or a gentle leader for any dog, trained or not, but never a choke collar or a prong collar.
I would suggest lots of exercize (He's a sheperd/lab mix, both are high energy dogs) as well as some basic obedience classes for your dog. You have to remember, dogs don't understand english, or whatever language you speak. We have to teach them what each word means and we have to to teach them what is acceptable behavior and what is not. Also, someone suggested a choke collar. PLEASE PLEASE don't use a choke collar. When used inappropriately (as most people use them. They are very difficult to use appropriately) they can cause extreme damage to the dogs neck, including causing the trachea to collapse. I would recommend a halter, or a gentle leader for any dog, trained or not, but never a choke collar or a prong collar.
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I would never recommend hitting a dog or in any way causing it pain to elicit good behavior. In my opinion it is cruel, inhumane, and constitutes animal abuse.
However I did find an article on jumping and I really liked the advice. Here's the link:
http://www.barkbytes.com/training/jump.htm
However I did find an article on jumping and I really liked the advice. Here's the link:
http://www.barkbytes.com/training/jump.htm
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I have used the Koehler method for training my dogs. The method has gone out of style in current society. I know a lady who traveled several hundred miles every week to attend a class I was in. If you watch older movies like Swiss Family Robinson those dogs were trained by William Koehler who was the primary dog trainer for Disney back then. It is a ten week course and after it - if done correctly - ones dog will no longer need a leash. They can be chasing a deer and will stop on a dime with one command. It is often seen as harsh by some, but my dogs not only love me but also respect me. In my town police dogs, humane society, and dogs for handicap people go through and are sometime required to take the class. The Koehler class in my area is attended by three to four hundred dogs a year.
Ask my friend how much my dog likes me and you will see the nifty little scar on his arm from when the dog thought he was trying to hurt me
after the dog was restrained they still got me duck taped and into the car though.
I have known hundreds of dogs that have been trained using choke collars (What an unfair name). You can use choke collars in the wrong way but it is not hard to use them in the right way. As mentioned above they are used by hundreds of dogs a year in that class alone.
You can jerk on a choke collar till a dogs neck is raw (If this is the case you are training wrong but the point is you will not cause permanent damage). I have seen dogs fly in the air from being jerked so hard (Again wrong thing to do). You will not hurt a normal healthy dog around the size of a small lab. Just use common sense, do not yank your Chihuahua as hard as I had to jerk my Great Danes.
This should go with out saying:
Tailor your method to the dog. My lab will role over and pee if she gets a dirty look, she never needed a wap. I had a Great Dane that required a few. It just depends on the dog, and probably most importantly what you established as a puppy.
About causing your dog pain and it being inhumane, cruel, and animal abuse. I think you will have trouble finding someone to arrest me as multiple police officers have been required to train there dog using the Koehler method. Also the class is regularly attended/taken by people from the humane society. EDIT: I forgot to mention the multiple vets that have taken and recomend the class.
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zoink
Ask my friend how much my dog likes me and you will see the nifty little scar on his arm from when the dog thought he was trying to hurt me
after the dog was restrained they still got me duck taped and into the car though. I have known hundreds of dogs that have been trained using choke collars (What an unfair name). You can use choke collars in the wrong way but it is not hard to use them in the right way. As mentioned above they are used by hundreds of dogs a year in that class alone.
- The running part of the chain should go through the ring and over the neck. (Exactly how it is done depends weather you heal on the left or the right.)
- Take off the choke chain when not training
You can jerk on a choke collar till a dogs neck is raw (If this is the case you are training wrong but the point is you will not cause permanent damage). I have seen dogs fly in the air from being jerked so hard (Again wrong thing to do). You will not hurt a normal healthy dog around the size of a small lab. Just use common sense, do not yank your Chihuahua as hard as I had to jerk my Great Danes.
This should go with out saying:
Tailor your method to the dog. My lab will role over and pee if she gets a dirty look, she never needed a wap. I had a Great Dane that required a few. It just depends on the dog, and probably most importantly what you established as a puppy.
About causing your dog pain and it being inhumane, cruel, and animal abuse. I think you will have trouble finding someone to arrest me as multiple police officers have been required to train there dog using the Koehler method. Also the class is regularly attended/taken by people from the humane society. EDIT: I forgot to mention the multiple vets that have taken and recomend the class.
Sincerely,
zoink
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Thanks for all the advice/help guys! But I have another dog issue you might be able to help with... Right now, the dog I mentioned earlier is not at our house (he is out at my Dad's farm), but we will be bringing him here shortly. However, we have a cat here at the house. She is getting pretty old and I'm not sure how she will react to having a dog in the house. Anything I could do to help the situation, or watch out for?
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We have an older cat 2 older cocker spaniels and one 2 year old toy poodle. The dogs and cat ususally get along well but when they don't we can separate them with a child's fence between the kitchen and living room. It works well when friends drop by too b/c it lets the dogs calm down.
For the jumping up problem-- we taught our dogs to not jump by saying in a louder than usual voice "down" and putting your hand, flat, to their noise. Works well with our dogs
For the jumping up problem-- we taught our dogs to not jump by saying in a louder than usual voice "down" and putting your hand, flat, to their noise. Works well with our dogs
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Hi All 
I'm no expert, but I can tell you what has worked for my dog. He is a shepherd/kelpie and I got him from the RSPCA when he was nearly 2, he used to be really bitey - even drawing a tiny bit of blood occasionally (this was apparently because his previous owners used to beat him so he was scared of people). It took a few months to grow out of the biting stage, but I just used to put my hand around his muzzle and stare him in the eyes and firmly say "NO BITING".
Taking him to dog school was really good too I think - just because it made it clear which of us is the boss!
Seems to have worked.
As for the jumping...
I'm no expert, but I can tell you what has worked for my dog. He is a shepherd/kelpie and I got him from the RSPCA when he was nearly 2, he used to be really bitey - even drawing a tiny bit of blood occasionally (this was apparently because his previous owners used to beat him so he was scared of people). It took a few months to grow out of the biting stage, but I just used to put my hand around his muzzle and stare him in the eyes and firmly say "NO BITING".
Taking him to dog school was really good too I think - just because it made it clear which of us is the boss!
Seems to have worked.
As for the jumping...
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