Pro-Abortion Teacher

[CruciFixed]

A topic posted in OBOB just reminded me of a pro-choice teacher at our school. She tells the girls who get pregnant they should "get rid of it" because "You are not even finished with school." Her excuse for saying this is "I did it 3xs when I wasn't ready" She's not talking about giving the child up for adoption after its born she's talking about ABORTION!

Sounds to me like she's a pro-choice teacher aimed at demeaning life and saying because a student is not finished with school a child doesn't deserve to live.:o She's advocating death! Its disgusting that because she chose to murder 3 of her children that she can spout this stuff off to all of the girls in our school.

One girl found out she was pregnant and she told her "Just go down to the place and get it taken care of" That girl later miscarried and the same teacher said "Well that's good."

What can we do about these types of teachers? Is this allowed? I know we as Americans are entitled to free speech but is this some sort of violating speech? Isn't there something? We can't mention God in school because someone might get offended but these woman can advocate death in our schools and that's acceptable?

I'm outraged and IMO abortion is not a right its a WRONG!

 

[-~Truth_N_Trust~-]

It's awful and very sad. I'm sorry but I don't know what you can do, I don't know how it works in the US.
Unfortunately I also know of stories like that. My best friend went to a catholic high school, the nuns there would organise abortions for girls so the parents would never find out.
So I feel and share your outrage...

 

[CruciFixed]

Oh my! That's disgusting but I think that at least in a Catholic school something can be done about it because that goes against Catholic teachings. But in a public school its easier for a pro-choice teacher to get away with those comments than it is for a Christian teacher to say something........Christian.

 

[-~Truth_N_Trust~-]

yeah I agree with you. It's difficult because how is something like that going to be policed? The privacy laws around abortion mean that basically this teacher will have no responsibility. And whilst I know that there are many great teachers, there are definitely some who use their position as a teacher to push their own political/ethical agenda.

 

[CruciFixed]

Well most of the girls were offended they said "I could not have the heart to do that." And "How can she say that stuff? That's a life"

Its just disgusting what is allowed and isn't. God is not allowed prayer is not allowed Christian groups are not allowed.

Telling students to kill their unborn children.......that's a-okay.

I don't get it and I am outraged. I can't stand the thought of abortion. I hate abortion with my whole heart and soul it makes me cringe I've almost puked and I can't comprehend the mind of people who say its okay or its a right because a woman doesn't want to have a child or doesn't want to allow a baby to live. God allows us to live every day we are live. Why should we feel the right to prevent someone else from living?

When I say
I hate abortion it doesn't mean "I hate people who have gotten abortions" I know we are all sinners and have sinned and none of our souls look very pretty right now but I just hate that it exists. I hate even more that people don't see how evil and wrong it is.

 

[-~Truth_N_Trust~-]

I totally get you brikkz, I feel the same way about abortion. I was recently involved in letter writing protests because our state (in australia) changed the laws so that it is now legal at any stage in pregnancy. They still passed the law much to my disgust. I have discussed and heard all the arguments, but none of them can come close to overcoming destroying a human being. I feel very very sorry for women who felt that this was their only acceptable choice.

 

[CruciFixed]

That's gross. Any stage is gross. But to think...a woman can sit on the fence until full term and kill her child. DISGUSTING......

All of its is disgusting every stage of pregnancy to kill your child is disgusting.

Yuck.

I still wonder if there is anything we can do about teachers saying this stuff to students about their pregnancies?

 

[CyberPaladin]

Well there would definetly be a lawsuite filed if there was any sort of reprimand. As far as whether the school would win that would be a bit of toss up I know schools have won before I remember that a few years ago the courts ruled in favor of an elementary school that fired one of there math teachers that one day to talk to the class about sex ed but with 1st amendment issues and the fact in your example they're high school kids I'm not sure.

 

[ReformedChapin]

My biology professor in college stated that abortion is a great gift for humanity. It allows women to express their rights. She said that when she was younger abortion wasn't legal and she had to induce her own abortion. She did this twice, once by using a coat hanger and the second time punching her own stomach.

 

[emilybeingemily]

How horrible! I can't believe a teacher would say that to students. It's so awful, the lack of respect for life is horrifying.

 

[CruciFixed]

Well there would definetly be a lawsuite filed if there was any sort of reprimand. As far as whether the school would win that would be a bit of toss up I know schools have won before I remember that a few years ago the courts ruled in favor of an elementary school that fired one of there math teachers that one day to talk to the class about sex ed but with 1st amendment issues and the fact in your example they're high school kids I'm not sure.

That wasn't an example. That really happened at our school.

 

[CyberPaladin]

That wasn't an example. That really happened at our school.

My mistake sorry about that.
Well you if you want to get the ball rolling the principal or superintendent would be who to file an intial complaint with, if that doesn't work school board would be the next place to go.
To bad even if your successful she isn't going to get an adequate punishment see this kind of stuff is why we need to bring back public caning.

 

[Zecryphon]

If a student initiated and student led Christian group is being told they can not form a group by the school, the school is violating those children's right to freedom of religion.

If I were in your place, I would contact the American Center for Law and Justice. They're a group of Christian lawyers who fight this kind of garbage on a daily basis. You can find their website at: ACLJ • American Center for Law & Justice. Or it might be .com.

If the teacher promoting abortion is not the sex-ed teacher or the nurse, then she is going beyond her job description and could be in a lot of trouble as she is not giving kids ALL the information to make an informed decision as health care personel are required to do.

 

[Zecryphon]

If a student initiated and student led Christian group is being told they can not form a group by the school, the school is violating those children's right to freedom of religion.

If I were in your place, I would contact the American Center for Law and Justice. They're a group of Christian lawyers who fight this kind of garbage on a daily basis. You can find their website at: ACLJ • American Center for Law & Justice. Or it might be .com.

If the teacher promoting abortion is not the sex-ed teacher or the nurse, then she is going beyond her job description and could be in a lot of trouble as she is not giving kids ALL the information to make an informed decision as health care personel are required to do.

 

[CruciFixed]

If the teacher promoting abortion is not the sex-ed teacher or the nurse, then she is going beyond her job description and could be in a lot of trouble as she is not giving kids ALL the information to make an informed decision as health care personel are required to do.

She's not a sex ed teacher or nurse. None of the girls asked her for her advice they just mentioned their pregnancy to a friend she heard about it she made a nasty comment and this isn't the first time she's done it. She didn't even tell them there were other options she said simply "Get rid of it. You aren't done with school." Or "I did it 3xs just go down to the clinic get it out of there"

Very disgusting and rude. The other students aren't all Christians but a lot of them are offended by her comments. The ones who are Christian don't really want a group but we tried to have Christian based discussion before and were told we're not really allowed to discuss Christian ethics or matters in the school.

Besides its not our major gripe. Our major concern is this teacher telling girls to get abortions as if its her business or as if that's the only option.

 

[Zecryphon]

She's not a sex ed teacher or nurse. None of the girls asked her for her advice they just mentioned their pregnancy to a friend she heard about it she made a nasty comment and this isn't the first time she's done it. She didn't even tell them there were other options she said simply "Get rid of it. You aren't done with school." Or "I did it 3xs just go down to the clinic get it out of there"

Very disgusting and rude. The other students aren't all Christians but a lot of them are offended by her comments. The ones who are Christian don't really want a group but we tried to have Christian based discussion before and were told we're not really allowed to discuss Christian ethics or matters in the school.

Besides its not our major gripe. Our major concern is this teacher telling girls to get abortions as if its her business or as if that's the only option.

The school is violating your right to freedom of religion by telling you you can not have faith based discussions. I would contact the ACLJ immediately. The Supreme Court has ruled in the Christian student's favor on this one. You can't get any more of an authoritative yes to faith based discussions between students than that.

This teacher should be reprimanded by the school board, but if they are unaware that she is doing anything wrong they won't do anything about it. Same thing with the Superintendent of schools. But if it's possible to have a meeting with the parents of the students, that's who this teacher ultimately works for anyway, let's make her comments to kids known to the parents and see what action the parents demand. Is this teacher tenured? If not, it should be fairly easy to get her fired. But seriously, call the ACLJ and find out your rights and what you can do about this teacher, because this is pure liberal-agenda bias. She had an abortion three times like it was no big deal, even though abortions not performed in a hospital is one of the most dangerous medical procedures a person can receive. Remember the abortion industry as a whole is not overseen like the medical profession is. There is absolutely no one watching what goes on in these clinics and a lot of young girls die, from this procedure being botched. But the liberal left will never tell you that.

Also this teacher is bragging about being a murderer, that should be offensive to all people. The first abortion I could understand if she was a pregnant girl and didn't know her options. The second and third abortions however? How's this? Don't have sex if you can't buy a condom or other form of birth control. Why innocent babies have to die because people won't shell out a few bucks for contraception is beyond me.

 

[CyberPaladin]

Brikkz I agree the best thing you could do is raise awareness among parents of these kids and contact the ACLJ immedately. I have include a link below to the ACLJ contact info.
https://www.aclj.org/Contact/

 

[CruciFixed]

Well she's not the teacher who said "We shouldn't have these discussions." That guy is my teacher and IDK what his agenda is. He's never said he was pro either way.

But the female teacher is down the hall and I would love if someone brought this to the parents but most of the students of this school either live on their own, don't know their rights, or don't tell their parents that they live with because most of them don't communicate with their parents from what i can tell.

Can I actually contact them about the abortion teacher? Should I get the girls to confirm what she said to them?

This high school isn't your average high school. Its a second chance school for students who are either too old to attend regular high school but want a second chance, students who have previously been expelled from another school, or students who have trouble with attendance. I fall under a special category called "Dang you must be stupid" lol kidding actually I left Louisiana right about the time of Hurricane Katrina. I was 18. I had finished a lot of school work but when I came up here I didn't have any credits to prove of so I told my school about my being home schooled in La and my mom filed the paper work for all the stuff I did. Well they called Jefferson Parrish and could find not even a scrap of paper work and it was blamed on the hurricane the loss of my school work was anyway. So at 19 I enrolled at this high school starting over at get this 9th grade oh my goodness how lame? Well I graduate May 29th so I'll be done done done! Woo hoo for me. I know I am such a loser.

Anyhoo I just heard about this teacher the other day. I knew she was a huge lady who was a tad racist and a bit of a bully but I didn't know she was this bad. I mean what if her words influences a girl and that's one more murder to chalk up to this woman?

 

[Uncle Tommy]

She's not a sex ed teacher or nurse. None of the girls asked her for her advice they just mentioned their pregnancy to a friend she heard about it she made a nasty comment and this isn't the first time she's done it. She didn't even tell them there were other options she said simply "Get rid of it. You aren't done with school." Or "I did it 3xs just go down to the clinic get it out of there"

Very disgusting and rude. The other students aren't all Christians but a lot of them are offended by her comments. The ones who are Christian don't really want a group but we tried to have Christian based discussion before and were told we're not really allowed to discuss Christian ethics or matters in the school.

Besides its not our major gripe. Our major concern is this teacher telling girls to get abortions as if its her business or as if that's the only option.

Actually in some states depending upon the situation she may be breaking the law. I know that in some states teachers cannot counsel students in any manner concerning matters of sexuality any further than referring the student to the school nurse of counselor.

I would start with the principal but you must understand you will need the girls to substantiate what you tell her/him.

 

[CruciFixed]

Okay that's probably what I'd have to do and since the girls probably wouldn't stand up against her (A lot are afraid of her) we'll probably have nothing .