Pro-abortion protesters attack police

[Valletta]

Police clash with protesters at abortion rights rally in Los Angeles

 

[Hans Blaster]

The sentence structure of that headline makes "Police" the subject and "protesters" the object. It sounds like police are doing the clashing. (I saw a short clip elsewhere and it looked like police escalation, but I don't know what happened before they arrived.)

 

[St_Worm2]

Here's an excerpt from the Yahoo News! article that was posited in the OP. (looks like you'll need to go to the linked article to see the photos however)

Police and protesters clashed in downtown Los Angeles on Tuesday night during an abortion rights rally over the Supreme Court's possible overturning of Roe v. Wade.

According to Los Angeles Police Chief Michel Moore, police were escorting a group of about 250 demonstrators marching from the federal courthouse to Pershing Square when a segment of the crowd began to throw rocks and bottles at police. Moore said that one officer was injured.

One police vehicle was seen with its window smashed, and a citywide police tactical alert was was briefly declared.

Videos posted to social media showed a chaotic scene as an officer tackled a protester, nearly hitting a fire hydrant, while another officer struck protesters with a baton.

A police officer wielding a baton is surrounded by a group of abortion rights demonstrators in Los Angeles on Tuesday night. (Ringo H.W. Chiu/AP)

Another clip showed an officer who arrived in a Homeland Security vehicle tell a female protester to back up. The unidentified male officer was then surrounded by demonstrators.

Demonstrators surround a Homeland Security vehicle near Pershing Square in Los Angeles on Tuesday. (Ringo H.W. Chiu/AP)
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--David

 

[muichimotsu]

Why does that misnomer of "pro abortion" keep spreading memetically? Because people don't care about accuracy, just getting engagement, so they claim someone who supports the right to abortion only wants abortion as the option for unplanned pregnancy or even as a way to address that societal issue.

It's not even just wrong, it's intellectually lazy rhetorical spin to demonize a group while acting like pro life is any more accurate when describing people who make abortion their hinge issue for candidates and not a broader platform of protecting quality of life overall

 

[Bradskii]

Police clash with protesters at abortion rights rally in Los Angeles

Was that it?

'Back up'
'No, you back up'.
'No. You back up'.
'No. You back up'.

Repeat a few times and then the cop backs up.

Look, let's hope it doesn't get worse than this. But there are going to be a whole lot of protests coming, this is an incredibly emotive issue and it only takes one idiot to throw a bottle or swing a baton and then people are going to get hurt.

 

[disciple Clint]

Why does that misnomer of "pro abortion" keep spreading memetically? Because people don't care about accuracy, just getting engagement, so they claim someone who supports the right to abortion only wants abortion as the option for unplanned pregnancy or even as a way to address that societal issue.

It's not even just wrong, it's intellectually lazy rhetorical spin to demonize a group while acting like pro life is any more accurate when describing people who make abortion their hinge issue for candidates and not a broader platform of protecting quality of life overall

How is the quality of life for the child? I know that is just an inconvenient fact.

 

[Valletta]

Why does that misnomer of "pro abortion" keep spreading memetically? Because people don't care about accuracy, just getting engagement, so they claim someone who supports the right to abortion only wants abortion as the option for unplanned pregnancy or even as a way to address that societal issue.

Certainly a portion of pro-abortion people get giddy at the idea of more and more abortions. In the United States blacks were targeted from early on, and in percentages the black community is still being hit the hardest. Combine that with other leftist/racist policies, the destruction of the family, teaching victimhood to children in the schools, etc. and places like Chicago are the result.

 

[KCfromNC]

Certainly a portion of pro-abortion people get giddy at the idea of more and more abortions.

If this is certain, you'll have no problem providing evidence that there is a significant enough portion of pro-choice voters where it makes sense to label all of them with the pro-abortion label.

 

[Bradskii]

...teaching victimhood to children in the schools...

Yikes. It used to be that we'd get a few posts in on any subject and someone would somehow manage to bring up abortion. Now we're only 6 posts in on a thread about abortion and Cee Arr Tee is apparently the new go-to subject.

Is there a law we can nominate a la Godwin's Law that will cover this?

 

[cow451]

How is the quality of life for the child? I know that is just an inconvenient fact.

Do children love being unwanted? Is foster care so great that children want to have to be in it? Childhood sexual and physical and emotional abuse are sought-after experiences?

I wish I had a nickle for each time that a "fine Christian" has said, "That woman has no business having children." And don't get me started about the comments about "welfare" mothers.

Many of the people that claim to be pro-life are only anti-abortion. Pro=Life is supposed to be cradle to grave support.

 

[wing2000]

Certainly a portion of pro-abortion people get giddy at the idea of more and more abortions.

The only thing certain about your statement is the intent to demonize other people.

 

[cow451]

Certainly a portion of pro-abortion people get giddy at the idea of more and more abortions. In the United States blacks were targeted from early on, and in percentages the black community is still being hit the hardest. Combine that with other leftist/racist policies, the destruction of the family, teaching victimhood to children in the schools, etc. and places like Chicago are the result.

That's an absolute crock.

 

[durangodawood]

Everyone attacks police. Pro choicers. Trump voters. Everyone!

 

[Fantine]

Sounds like there were a few rocks thrown by bystanders and things hot out of control. It also sounds like it was quickly contained.

 

[muichimotsu]

Certainly a portion of pro-abortion people get giddy at the idea of more and more abortions. In the United States blacks were targeted from early on, and in percentages the black community is still being hit the hardest. Combine that with other leftist/racist policies, the destruction of the family, teaching victimhood to children in the schools, etc. and places like Chicago are the result.

Well, you're just begging the question now by assuming pro abortion is the designation for those who want to protect the right to get an abortion. That's not remotely how a dichotomy works here: either you oppose abortion rights or you support them with a rough spectrum of how you would want to restrict that right in a reasonable non preferential way

If you're just going to assume the worst of your opponents, then I don't think there's any discussing this further, because you're already so thoroughly radicalized you would treat anyone that disagrees with you as a traitor, un-American or otherwise not to be trusted

Substantiate your claims. Margaret Sanger wanted to aid the black community, but arguably went about it in a way that wasn't taking into account systemic issues that America has had for centuries. She did not, objectively, advocate abortion except in extreme circumstances, that was not her solution to unwanted pregnancies, she sought to address the cause at the root of preventing those pregnancies in the first place

Wow...just a gish gallop of accusations now. Shows how little focus you have in the argument here and instead will throw darts at a board to hope something sticks.

 

[muichimotsu]

Everyone attacks police. Pro choicers. Trump voters. Everyone!

I imagine there's even a quote in regards to that: anyone sufficiently provoked will attack the police, much as you wouldn't think they could otherwise

 

[muichimotsu]

Yikes. It used to be that we'd get a few posts in on any subject and someone would somehow manage to bring up abortion. Now we're only 6 posts in on a thread about abortion and Cee Arr Tee is apparently the new go-to subject.

Is there a law we can nominate a la Godwin's Law that will cover this?

The white fragility principle?

 

[muichimotsu]

If this is certain, you'll have no problem providing evidence that there is a significant enough portion of pro-choice voters where it makes sense to label all of them with the pro-abortion label.

And that's not even getting into the claims that somehow black people are targeted for abortions when they're seemingly more likely through no fault of their own in the first place 50% or more of the time. Getting at the root of the problem is more effective than pruning branches of a dying tree

 

[Aldebaran]

The white fragility principle?

Sure, even though blacks are the majority of abortion patients. Characteristics of U.S. Abortion Patients in 2014 and Changes Since 2008

 

[Valletta]

Well, you're just begging the question now by assuming pro abortion is the designation for those who want to protect the right to get an abortion. That's not remotely how a dichotomy works here: either you oppose abortion rights or you support them with a rough spectrum of how you would want to restrict that right in a reasonable non preferential way

If you're just going to assume the worst of your opponents, then I don't think there's any discussing this further, because you're already so thoroughly radicalized you would treat anyone that disagrees with you as a traitor, un-American or otherwise not to be trusted

Substantiate your claims. Margaret Sanger wanted to aid the black community, but arguably went about it in a way that wasn't taking into account systemic issues that America has had for centuries. She did not, objectively, advocate abortion except in extreme circumstances, that was not her solution to unwanted pregnancies, she sought to address the cause at the root of preventing those pregnancies in the first place

Wow...just a gish gallop of accusations now. Shows how little focus you have in the argument here and instead will throw darts at a board to hope something sticks.

There is no right to kill, to the contrary, there is a right to life and a right to liberty. Margaret Sanger and her belief in eugenics is another topic. Please don't assume that because I have a different point of view I am radicalized. I think there are many, many misguided people on abortion.