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Prince Charles, Antichrist?

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Just curious whether anyone has read "The Antichrist and a Cup of Tea", which purports that Charles is the man everyone is looking for.

According to some of the amazon reviews, it almost seems to obvious. Prince Charles was born 6 months to the day after the formation of Israel. He claims the bloodline of King David, Muhammed, and possibly Jesus. His coat of arms has a red dragon on it, and his name 'Charles, Prince Of Wales' equals 666 in the gematria in Hebrew. A lot of the heraldic imagery sets to fit in with the stuff in revelation. Isn't there also something in Daniel about a prince without a kingdom? Fits Prince Charles perfectly.

I don't really believe in all this, but the theory is fascinating. It almost seems unlikely enough to be true.
 
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Yes, but even if Charles were to become king of England, he won't have enough power then.
Even though he has alot of weird new agey beleifs, at worst he will just wave excessivley like Queen Elizabeth. :p

Isn't the point of the story, though, that we won't know who the Antichrist is until circumstances propel him into power?

I find him a more likely candidate than someone like Javier Solana, simply because he's an obvious candidate and Charles isn't.

If Prince Charles ended up being the Antichrist I could see many being fooled simply because no one would expect it. I suppose you could say that about any long-shot candidate, though.
 
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Rev12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,


8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

seen in the 1st seal in Rev6, emmulating Christ's return

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

1/2 hour (of the hour of temptation)
13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.




2Thes2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. (or will be at hand until...)

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; (Ez28-Isa14)
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

what is the temple of God today?....or better said, who? Rev2-3, 1Cor3:16-17, 1Cor6:19, 2Cor6:16, 1Tit3:15, Rev3:12




Rev13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.

11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Satan is the antiChrist....which means that Satan the very physical fallen angel is the one that comes instead of Christ, and fools the world.....as they believe it is really Christ come back and they worship him as God. 2Cor11:14-15 disguises also tell of what is going on even today in the pulpit...and that Satan will come disguised as the angel of light...


only a small group of elect witnesses shall not be fooled by Satan....chosen by God for just that purpose.








Satan comes first, then Christ and the Gathering to Him for the elect....after that time...as the Olivette prophesy states...Mat24:27-29, Mar13:24-27
We are to be watchman for the enemy, who must come first while the Master is away...Ez33, Mat24:43


and if you (anyone) do not heed the warnings given by Christ and the writers of the NT about the fact that Satan comes first to deceive you, then that day in which Christ does truly returns shall come upon you like a thief comes upon his prey...unexpectedly....


we are to know what to watch for and Who to watch for.....

we must be watching for the fake, warning others about his coming which is first, so as not to be taken as a thief when the real Messiah Comes...thinking that He is already here...


there is a boat load of scripture further teaching the same thing over and over again, through type and parable....and direct prophesy...

in His service
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there is a boat load of scripture further teaching the same thing over and over again, through type and parable....and direct prophesy...

in His service
c

I think saying that the Antichrist is literally Satan the fallen angel is being a bit too literal. The Antichrist is called the man of perdition.
 
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the antiChrist is not a man of flesh but an angelic man, Satan the fallen angel

Angels and men are two different classes of beings. 'Angelic man' doesn't make any literal sense, any more than 'Rabbit man' or 'Sausage man' do.
 
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Just curious whether anyone has read "The Antichrist and a Cup of Tea", which purports that Charles is the man everyone is looking for.

According to some of the amazon reviews, it almost seems to obvious. Prince Charles was born 6 months to the day after the formation of Israel. He claims the bloodline of King David, Muhammed, and possibly Jesus. His coat of arms has a red dragon on it, and his name 'Charles, Prince Of Wales' equals 666 in the gematria in Hebrew. A lot of the heraldic imagery sets to fit in with the stuff in revelation. Isn't there also something in Daniel about a prince without a kingdom? Fits Prince Charles perfectly.

I don't really believe in all this, but the theory is fascinating. It almost seems unlikely enough to be true.

uhmmm King David, Muhammad and Jesus are in his bloodline? :sorry:
tulc(has some serious doubts any of those guys are in his bloodline) :cool:
 
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uhmmm King David, Muhammad and Jesus are in his bloodline? :sorry:
tulc(has some serious doubts any of those guys are in his bloodline) :cool:

Royals are strange folk...bloodlines are emphasized more than they are for the average person. I'm not sure the Jesus thing is something that's been discussed publicly by the english royal family, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was something they believed in private. The claim is along the lines of the plot of the Da Vinci code, which was based on a non-fictional book called 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail'.
 
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Angels and men are two different classes of beings. 'Angelic man' doesn't make any literal sense, any more than 'Rabbit man' or 'Sausage man' do.

I shall refer you to another arch angel's name and meaning from the Strong's Concordance.


H1403
גּבריאל
gabrîy'êl
gab-ree-ale'
From H1397 and H410; man of God; Gabriel, an archangel: - Gabriel.
 
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9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

seen in the 1st seal in Rev6, emmulating Christ's return.

No, this rider of the horse might possibly be the beast, but It is not satan who is thrown down from heaven, ZAP THUD WHERE AM I.

And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

And when he realises where he is he goes after the woman and he gives power to his beast and his false prophet.

We are to be watchman for the enemy, who must come first while the Master is away...
Mat24:43
43 But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.

Who is it who comes as a thief?
And those that were not watching, have their houses broken up?

It is Christ we are to be watching for, look at the verses before and after.

42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour
your Lord doth come.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not
the Son of man cometh.
 
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thanks for your opinion garry2, although I did not read zap thud where am I, in the Word? nor is that what we are to understand from the passage..rather, that when he is cast down, he goes after the woman, not zap thud where am I? (but what do you care about all these warnings and truths about that time....you will be gone right?)
 
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Royals are strange folk...bloodlines are emphasized more than they are for the average person. I'm not sure the Jesus thing is something that's been discussed publicly by the english royal family, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was something they believed in private. The claim is along the lines of the plot of the Da Vinci code, which was based on a non-fictional book called 'Holy Blood, Holy Grail'.

uhmmm you do realize the "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" book is actually just as much a work of fiction as "The Da Vinci Code" right? :sorry:
tulc(just in case you didn't know) :cool:
 
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thanks for your opinion garry2, although I did not read zap thud where am I, in the Word? nor is that what we are to understand from the passage..rather, that when he is cast down, he goes after the woman, not zap thud where am I? (but what do you care about all these warnings and truths about that time....you will be gone right?)

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

And when the dragon saw that he was cast to the earth, indicates there was a period where he didn't know where he was.

he was thrown down like lightning from Heaven "ZAP"

he landed on earth "THUD"

"WHERE AM I"

Oh i know now, there is z watching for me. ^_^
 
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I think that if Charles were really the AC then Daniels prophecy of the little horn would probably read something like this. "and, behold, in this horn were ears like the ears of an elephant , and a mouth speaking great things". But instead we are only told about his eyes and big mouth.

Da 7:8 - and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

I'm fairly confident that if God wanted to identify Charles as the AC in that passage then he would have mentioned his ears. I mean like you can't miss not noticing them can you...:)
 
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I think saying that the Antichrist is literally Satan the fallen angel is being a bit too literal. The Antichrist is called the man of perdition.
I'm impressed heavensblade, and you are almost right :thumbsup:. Actually he is called the man of sin, or the son of perdition.
2nd Thess 2:3 ~ Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10) And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
I guess some folks think that Satan will be working after himself lol.
 
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I think that if Charles were really the AC then Daniels prophecy of the little horn would probably read something like this. "and, behold, in this horn were ears like the ears of an elephant , and a mouth speaking great things". But instead we are only told about his eyes and big mouth.
:pray:

I'm fairly confident that if God wanted identify Charles as the AC in that passage then he would have mentioned his ears. I mean like you can't miss not noticing them can you...:)
No, you can't. He looks like Dumbo the elephant lol.
 
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