Preventing Homosexuality In Your Child

[Nymphalidae]

Dr. Dobson has some great advice when it comes to preventing homosexuality in young boys:

"Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger."

http://www.family.org/docstudy/newsletters/a0021043.cfm

Does this horrify anybody else?

 

[Welgaia]

That is bizarre. Why would that prevent homosexuality?

 

[DailyBlessings]

What are we supposed to be horrified by exactly?

The notion that we should be enforcing possibly negative gender roles just to prevent possible future "gayification" is abhorrent.

But the shower suggestion that you outlined doesn't bother me at all. Social nudity was more common in the pre-Victorian world, and I would consider reintroduction of the same as perfectly healthy. More knowledge and less shame about the nude body wold produce far more happy and self confident children.

 

[Chajara]

Yeah, I don't think kids seeing their parents naked is too big a deal while they're still little. If one of mine decided he wanted to hop in the shower with me I'd say no, but more because the little tyke would get in my way than anything (and I wouldn't want him to end up slipping and cracking his head on the faucet either). Any other situation involving my kids walking in on me naked would get no more of a reaction than an indignant "Do you /mind?/ I taught you how to knock on doors, young man/lady."

It's the idea of trying to enforce gender stereotypes that's disturbing to me. I played with godzilla toys when I was little, and to this day I don't know how to put on makeup and I don't carry a purse. I'd rather be outside looking for bugs to feed to my hedgehog than inside painting my face up or doing my hair.

Kids should be exposed to both sides of things if you ask me. Take both your son and daughter fishing, then next week go see a ballet performance or something that's considered "girly". It'll be good for them both.

 

[Wolf Georges]

Horrifying is the perfect description. The whole quote is disturbing.

I don't think that nudity in front of your child is wrong in anyway....but the thought of a father wanting to make an impression on his son of the size of his penis size is bizarre. Is this some reverse Oedipal thing???

Dr. Dobson's methods continue to confound me.

 

[john23237]

Dr. Dobson has some great advice when it comes to preventing homosexuality in young boys:

He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger."

http://www.family.org/docstudy/newsletters/a0021043.cfm

Does this horrify anybody else?

Does this horrify anyone else? You have got to be kidding. Oh, you don't mean seeing Dr. Dobson naked? Well, as a gay man, I think he may have inadvertantly stumbled upon a actual "cure". The very idea of being forced as a child to see Dr. Dobson naked in the shower pointing to his ...er...thingy and telling me how big it is just might have done the trick! Please, I beg you, do NOT let this get out and become public knowledge. I can just see hords of Fundies, armed with huge posters of Dr. Dobson in the nude trying to hang them in gay bars and patrons running out into the streets in horror, throwing themselves in front of on coming traffic!

 

[Murmur]

Dr. Dobson has some great advice when it comes to preventing homosexuality in young boys:

"Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger."

http://www.family.org/docstudy/newsletters/a0021043.cfm

Does this horrify anybody else?

This is a joke, right? I cannot believe anybody could take this seriously.

 

[christalee4]

I saw this article.

It's interesting that Mr. Dobson skips around the issue that homosexuality may or may not be inborn. He doesn't want to say it could possibly be a biological precept, but he also doesn't rule it out.

I don't understand why so-called fundamentalist doctors refuse to acknowledge science in public. I guess because it could interfere with Scripture. And their public relations.

 

[psychedelicist]

Taking my own kid into the shower with me? Fun as that sounds, I'll pass and risk him turning out gay.

 

[ottaia]

This is a joke, right? I cannot believe anybody could take this seriously.

Dobson is dead serious. The man is a threat to society IMO.

 

[ChristianCenturion]

Dr. Dobson has some great advice when it comes to preventing homosexuality in young boys:

"Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger."

http://www.family.org/docstudy/newsletters/a0021043.cfm

Does this horrify anybody else?

I enjoy much of Focus on the Family's instruction, but not everything that comes from that group is considered gospel.
If I were to take a stab at explaining the emboldened (since it seems a preoccupation for some to mock or ridicule certain religious groups lately), I would say what is being expressed there is a tendency for some men to think that if a very young child sees the same sex naked, that may increase a chance the child's fascination or interest in the same gender. Granted, the above myth or fear is unfounded and thus a possible reason that Dr. Dobson is mentioning it as being "OK" if it happens. Actually for those non-Christians that keep advocating that sex and the body should be discussed with children BEFORE they are faced with the realities of life and possibly raising a child unprepared or unknowledgeable in those issues, I see it as very revealing that this would be a focus of their attention.

 

[MidnightBlue]

Does this horrify anybody else?

Oh, yeah. Not that the naked body is such a big deal, but Dobson's program would have freaked me out as a kid.

"After church, Daddy and I went out in the yard and wrestled a while, and then he took me in the shower to show me his penis."

What's wrong with these people?

 

[Farouche Exegete]

(snip)I would say what is being expressed there is a tendency for some men to think that if a very young child sees the same sex naked, that may increase a chance the child's fascination or interest in the same gender. Granted, the above myth or fear is unfounded and thus a possible reason that Dr. Dobson is mentioning it as being "OK" if it happens. (snip)

I'd like to ask for clarification of the above sentences. You seem to be saying that there is a myth ("the above myth") that fathers think that getting their boys to look at the father's penis might turn the boys into homosexuals.
But here, Dr. Dobson is exploding that myth by turning it on its head and saying that contrary to that myth, getting boys to look at their father's penis is beneficial for instilling heterosexuality, because it "may increase a chance the child's fascination or interest in the same gender".

Is this what you are trying to get across?

 

[ChristianCenturion]

I'd like to ask for clarification of the above sentences. You seem to be saying that there is a myth ("the above myth") that fathers think that getting their boys to look at the father's penis might turn the boys into homosexuals.
But here, Dr. Dobson is exploding that myth by turning it on its head and saying that contrary to that myth, getting boys to look at their father's penis is beneficial for instilling heterosexuality, because it "may increase a chance the child's fascination or interest in the same gender".

Is this what you are trying to get across?

No, but thank you for showing that it could be misunderstood.
I pretty much explained it the best I could, maybe if this is such a concern or interest for you, you can write FotF and ask them yourself what is being conveyed. That would probably be the best possible way to get your answer.

www.family.org

 

[skinner]

Dr. Dobson has some great advice when it comes to preventing homosexuality in young boys:

"Meanwhile, the boy's father has to do his part. He needs to mirror and affirm his son's maleness. He can play rough-and-tumble games with his son, in ways that are decidedly different from the games he would play with a little girl. He can help his son learn to throw and catch a ball. He can teach him to pound a square wooden peg into a square hole in a pegboard. He can even take his son with him into the shower, where the boy cannot help but notice that Dad has a penis, just like his, only bigger."

http://www.family.org/docstudy/newsletters/a0021043.cfm

Does this horrify anybody else?

What's the big deal? Your dad didn't show you how to pee standing up?
Affirming your boy's mascalinity is important. That's all he's saying.

 

[Farouche Exegete]

No, but thank you for showing that it could be misunderstood.

Well, you're welcome. I did try pretty hard to make sense of your comment.
I guess I don't really know what myth is involved that you have spoken about,
so perhaps that's why your comment only made sense to me in the way I rephrased it.

I pretty much explained it the best I could, maybe if this is such a concern or interest for you, you can write FotF and ask them yourself what is being conveyed. That would probably be the best possible way to get your answer.

www.family.org

No, I was just puzzled by the myth indicator.

 

[meglovesyou98]

See, i grew up beign int eh shower with both of my parents and so did my brother, and we are both fine. I don't think it is such a big deal. I learned about the human anatomy that way. I think if a child showers with both parents, they see both aspects and know things much earlier.

 

[MidnightBlue]

What's the big deal? Your dad didn't show you how to pee standing up?

My dad didn't. As complicated an operation as peeing standing up may seem to some, I was able to figure it out on my own. The original poster is a female, though, so it's possible that she ... Oh, never mind.

Well, let the followers of Dobson try the program and see how it works.

"Let's wrestle, Tommy. Don't be gay."
"Let's play catch, Tommy. Don't be gay."
"Let's hammer nails, Tommy. Don't be gay."
"See Daddy's penis, Tommy? Don't be gay."

Of course, if Dobson's program works, that means it's your fault if your kid's gay. So give the kid a break. And if it doesn't work, an athletic homosexual who's comfortable with nudity will probably have a certain advantage in the gay bars.

 

[CM]

ROFL, that's classic.

That man is really good for a laugh. Sometimes I think I'm clicking a parody site, but alas, the man really thinks this way. >>';

 

[freealaska]

Prediction for this thread:

= Rhetoric
= Liberal with a better idea

= Right winger repeating same tired rhetoric

Repeat for 25 pages

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