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Presbyterians, Baptists Focus on Public Schools' Influence

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PaladinValer

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How the heck are the PCA or the SBC "mainline?"

Time to find a less biased newsource...

Pulling kids out of public schools doesn't solve the problem; getting yourself involved in their education is. Unfortunately, I've noticed that 9 out of every 10 parents don't even have a clue on how their education system even runs.
 
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sinner/SAVED said:
Every time a Christian kid is taken out of public school there is one less Christian witness to all the unchurched and non-Christian kids. Seems to go against our commision if you ask me.

Children are not things to be used to benefit (perhaps) others. Parents have an obligation to see their child receives the best education possible.

Parents would not give their children substandard health care or poor food in order to (perhaps) help other children.

Aside from the basics needed for life, nothing is more important for the development of a kid than a good education. It affects a person's entire life. Why on earth should a parent settle for less than the best they can afford their child?

Kids will spend a large part of their lives helping others. Both on their own and by paying taxes. If they get sucked into the social pathologies common in government schools, they won't be able to care for anyone, including themselves.

Let them be kids for a while. With the best parents are able to provide.
 
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That is a different story. There are fine public schools around. Residents usual pay big bucks in property taxes to support them. As long as the NEA agenda isn't too evident, no reason not to use them.

I was speaking of the larger, mainly urban, districts.

In many of them the teachers send their kids to private schools.
 
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PaladinValer said:
How the heck are the PCA or the SBC "mainline?"

Time to find a less biased newsource...

Pulling kids out of public schools doesn't solve the problem; getting yourself involved in their education is. Unfortunately, I've noticed that 9 out of every 10 parents don't even have a clue on how their education system even runs.

I agree with PalandinValer. My wife works as a guidance counselor in a public school. While there are problems in public schools, they still by and large provide the best education for the money. Parents don't get involved, my wife has trouble getting parents to come in to talk about problems of their kids and yes some of the parents are christians. Parents don't get involved with PTA, nor go to open school board meetings. These are ways we as christians can get involved to change our schools.
BTW, I wonder how these who will want to take our kids out of "worldly" schools would say about such scriptures such as John 17:14-18: "I have given them your wod and the world hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of he world. My prayer is NOT that you take them out of the work but that you protect them from the evil one. They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. Sanctify them by truth; your word is truth. AS YOU SENT ME INTO THE WORLD, SO I SENT THEM INTO THE WORLD."
God bless you all!
In Christ,
Steve
 
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The union/educrat complex has three excuses for its failure:

1. Not enough money
2. The parents
3. The children

I cannot think of another service provider which blames the customer for its failure.

Perhaps if unionized teachers did not spend millions a year trying to elect politicians who pass legislation which undermines the family (higher taxes, welfare schemes etc) parents would have more time with their kids. As it is now, often one parent must work just to pay taxes.

Be nice if we had more competition to government schools as well. Teachers are even opposed to merit pay. How many other occupations get away with that? Nurses, writers, roofers, salesmen, truck drivers, stockbrokers, movie stars, pro athletes, backhoe operators, loggers all get paid based on performance. Most are at will employees as well. They don't produce, they don't get paid.

How can government teachers educate children to function in society when they exempt themselves from the realities the majority of Americans face?
 
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jssatt said:
BTW, I wonder how these who will want to take our kids out of "worldly" schools would say about such scriptures such as John 17:14-18: "I have given them your wod and the world hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of he world. My prayer is NOT that you take them out of the work but that you protect them from the evil one. They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. Sanctify them by truth; your word is truth. AS YOU SENT ME INTO THE WORLD, SO I SENT THEM INTO THE WORLD."

This is a really old post but I can't help commenting on this. This passage of scripture is not talking about children. "So I sent them into the world" is not saying "So I sent the children into the public schools (a.k.a. world)". Jesus is saying that he is sending his adult disciples, those who he trained and taught for a significant period of time (3 years?), out to make new disciples in the world. Also, why do parents send their children out with some notion of being Christian emissaries, yet the parents are not themselves involved in evangelizing or missions or charity in the local community?
 
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