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Sorry I'm not understanding what you're trying to convey, I mean I agree with it but I'm just not understanding how it applies to what I said.Because
If choice is given that can go two ways. I think He wants us to voluntarily choose Him
If I gave you a car no strings attached, would you accept it?He allows us to choose our path. Without choice there is no love.
Eze 18:23
Do I take any pleasure in the death of the wicked? declares the Sovereign LORD. Rather, am I not pleased when they turn from their ways and live?
Does everyone call on the name of the Lord? Or is it everyone who believes that calls on Him?So the following represents Calvinism?
Roman 10:8-13
“The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,” that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
I'm afraid you can't dissect this to fit your doctrine, it says what it says.Does everyone call on the name of the Lord? Or is it everyone who believes that calls on Him?
So are you advocating that God does give us a choice to accept or reject?If I gave you a car no strings attached, would you accept it?
If I told you were going to die and then I gave you the only way to prevent your death, would you choose it?
What about those who don't get the opportunity to choose (the unborn, for example)?
Good job avoiding the question, but you're mistaken. I'll answer it for you. Only those who believe will call upon His name. Do all believe? Nope.I'm afraid you can't dissect this to fit your doctrine, it says what it says.
I wasn't avoiding anything, I was telling you that you can't eisegete one point of your doctrine of Sovereign Election into this passage of scripture.Good job avoiding the question, but you're mistaken. I'll answer it for you. Only those who believe will call upon His name. Do all believe? Nope.
No. I'm advocating that God makes an offer no one can refuse.So are you advocating that God does give us a choice to accept or reject?
Is that so? How insightful. Well it just so happens that salvation is a gift of God, not something that anyone obtains by human means. Though all are born in sin, it is God that gives this gift. So a child who dies before it is born is able to enter Heaven by the grace and mercy of God. This also applies to those who are outside of the influence of evangelical Christians. With God, all things are possible.Your third analysis is just simply a bad one.
Well since apparently I am not serious and cannot offer legitimate answers in your opinion, I have nothing more to discuss with you.I wasn't avoiding anything, I was telling you that you can't eisegete one point of your doctrine of Sovereign Election into this passage of scripture.
If you're serious about getting legitimate answers to your questions then you should respond with legitimate answers before asking more questions. The law of sowing and reaping works on these threads as well.
No. I'm advocating that God makes an offer no one can refuse.
I don't disagree but I was speaking about your third analogy not about salvation being a gift. How exactly was that third analogy relevant?Is that so? How insightful. Well it just so happens that salvation is a gift of God, not something that anyone obtains by human means. Though all are born in sin, it is God that gives this gift. So a child who dies before it is born is able to enter Heaven by the grace and mercy of God. This also applies to those who are outside of the influence of evangelical Christians. With God, all things are possible.
Well since apparently I am not serious and cannot offer legitimate answers in your opinion, I have nothing more to discuss with you.
God created all things, that includes the spiritual realm.God knows everything as far as you and I are concerned, but in the Spiritual realm there may be things that are not knowable, so even God does not know these things, but that would not keep us from describing God from our perspective as knowing everything.
I got in trouble years ago for this but I will say it again. Even Satan believes.Does everyone call on the name of the Lord? Or is it everyone who believes that calls on Him?
Actually, not only does Satan believe, he knows. He stood in front of God asking permission to tempt Job.I got in trouble years ago for this but I will say it again. Even Satan believes.
Perhaps you can tell us which sins Christ didn't die for? Please be specific.
The churches they were written to and again if you claim has any credence which of the many churches mentioned in the New Covenant was the catholic church?
Pehaps you can tell us once again where Moses got those laws? Oh wait........
I don't know how many people the catholic and protestant churches murdered but I'm sure it's quite a few eh? Why do you ask it's your history. So how many Baptists do you think the catholic church murdered knowing we never shared in catholic and protestant churches evil doings during the dark ages the catholic church is responsible for? BTW you do know one of your popes apologized for those atrocity's. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_apologies_made_by_Pope_John_Paul_II
Wow so Christ is fickle, I never knew that he would save someone put their name in the Book of Life and hen remove it. You would think that because God knows everything he wouldn't have wasted time by putting someone's name in the Book of life who he was later going to "unsave".
You do know that what you are posting is extremely unbiblical, don't you?
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