• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

pre-tribbers need to rejoice in this...

Status
Not open for further replies.

murjahel

Senior Veteran
Oct 31, 2005
8,768
1,067
✟36,887.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
Some in past and present try to set dates for such return. One date setter was William Miller who set the date for October 22, 1843, based on the 2300 days of Daniel 8:13. Nothing happened, and he recalculated to October 22, 1844, and again nothing happened. The Adventist group split then, and Mrs. Ellen G. White became prophetess and leader. She said the mistake was that the Lord did not come to the ‘earthly sanctuary’ but to a ‘heavenly sanctuary’ on that day. Yet, the Bible tells us that Christ entered the heavenly sanctuary long ago (Hebrews 3:1, 8:1-2, 9:42, 12:2 Acts 1:11, 2:35, Romans 8:34, Ephesians 1:19-23, Colossians 3:1, I Peter 3:22, Revelation 3:21)

To try to set an exact date or hour of a return or rapture, is unwise and impossible.

There are so many discrepancies in calculating years of the calendar, months, days, and it is a different hour in each part of the world, so if we knew an hour, for which part of the world would it be?

There are always scoffers, mocking the talk of a soon return or rapture.

II Peter 3:3-4
“Knowing this first, that there shall come, in the last days, scoffers, walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.”


Yet, the Bible is one third prophecy, and prophecy is a revelation from God of what He wishes us to know of His purpose. Prophecy is written for our comfort, and to give us hope. The Thessalonicans needed some more of this ‘hope’, and so do we.

Romans 15:4
“...for whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the Scripture might have hope.”


Prophecy is being more clearly understood in our day, and the Bible predicted a great revelation to envelop this last age.

Habakkuk 2:14
“For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea.”


The whole book of Daniel, Isaiah, Jeremiah, are opening up to us, with new and fresh understanding previously not fully understood.

We are in the last age, we are in the generation, we can know this, for the Bible may say we will not know the day nor hour, but it says we should know the generation, the times and the seasons.

Luke 21:29-31
“Behold, the fig tree, and all the trees, when they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. So likewise, ye when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is at hand.”


When the fig tree ‘blossomed’, i.e. Israel became a nation, we knew we had entered the generation, that would not die off, before the coming of the Lord. On March 14, 1948, Israel became a nation.

Matthew 24:33-34
“When ye see all thse things, know that it is near, even at the door... verily, this generation, shall not pass till all these things be fulfilled.”


Many other things confirm that we are near the rapture and some seven years later, the second coming of Jesus. The so-called ‘seven thousand year theory’ is further confirmation.

II Peter 3:8
“But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day with the Lord is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as a day... The Lord is not slack concerning His coming...”


The millennium (1000 years) is like the seventh day of the creation week. It will be a thousand year sabbath rest, as was the sabbath day of that creation week. This was taught in the Book of Enoch, by Barnabas, Ireneus, and many others down through the years. How close are we to the end of the six thousand??? Well, mistakes in the Gregorian calendar are calculated to between 2 and 17 years, so, with seven at least to go until the second coming, we are in the few at the most.

We are to be ‘sign’ watchers, we are to know the ‘times and the seasons’. We are to know we are in the generation, and yet, we are told, ‘occupy till I come’. So with all the speculation, and calculation, we need to still keep on with the work of the Lord. The nearness of His coming should spur us to new growth, renewed joy, and enthusiasm, but should not make us sit on a mountain top, idly awaiting a particular day. We have work to do, and “the night cometh when no man can work”. So till then, we should hurriedly finish up our work for the Lord.

Almost 200 years ago, some Bible scholars made a list of things they should expect to see, before the Lord Jesus would come. They began to watch for these things to happen.

What was on the list then???


1. The Jews would return to their homeland.
(1948 to present sees this happening.)

2. The Hebrew language would be revived. (It was a dead, unused language at the time, and in 1948, it was revived.)

3. Russia would become a world power, and in 1914, it started, and continued, and finally became one of the two super powers of the world.

4. A ten nation confederacy would arise in Europe, and in the last few years, we find they have opened borders, combined armed forces to a great degree, developed a common currency, and have a ruling board for union.

5. China would become a political force. This obviously has happened during the 1960's through the present time.

6. They also predicted frequent earthquakes and astronomical signs, and the earthquakes have multiplied many times previous levels, and signs and wonders, even some man-made ones, have startled the world.

7. Other predictions on their list, included, sexual immorality will be rampant, a strong trend toward spiritism and the occult, apostasy and heresy in the church would rise in great measure, in the midst of an effort to create a one world church. The attempt to create a ‘Chrislam’ church, merging those who see Jesus as Deity, with those who see Him only as a prophet under Mohammed, and a false god named Allah, is ensuing in our days. Others are wanting us to accept Mormons into Christianity, when they see Jesus as the brother of the devil, and unable to atone for our sins. That ‘one’ church they try to create is not the church of Jesus. He is outside knocking on that door, unwanted by those inside, in fact, they do not realize He is absent from that horrific church.

Certainly these things have occurred.

And startling other fulfillments of Bible prophecy have occurred. The Lord knows the exact time of His return now (though while on earth, the exact day was not known to Him), and He and the Father, and the Holy Spirit are more anxious than we are, for the ‘Spirit and the bride say, COME.”

The first coming of Jesus was expected, and many were watching closely for Him, for the signs of the ‘star’, the message of the wise men, the preaching of the shepherds, and the Scriptures had all confirmed that the Messiah was soon to present Himself.

Daniel had prophesied that in 69 sevens of years after the command to build the Temple, the Messiah would come (Daniel 9:25-27). Some years later the command was made by Artaxerxes was made to Nehemiah (Nehemiah 2:1-6). The date of that event was ‘in the month of Nisan in the 20th year of Artaxerxes’ which was in 445 BC. If the 69 times 7, (483 years) were the Biblical 360 day years, we have 173,880 days after the decree of March 14, 445 B.C. that the Messiah was to present Himself. The day that Jesus went to Jerusalem on the Sunday before the passover, was April 6, 32 A.D., exactly 173,880 days after the prescribed starting day. The accuracy of Daniel’s prophecy, if correctly interpreted, should have alerted many in Israel to be ready for the Messiah to come. In that prophecy of Daniel, the last seven of the 70 sevens is yet to be fulfilled, and events therein are spelled out to the day, 1260 and 1260, plus 30, and plus an extra 45 days shown for other events. So, we know Jesus will soon be coming, and we may not know the exact day nor the hour, but we know it is soon. We can trust the rest of prophecy to be literally fulfilled, as was the former events.

We live in the last days, and we should have unwavering faith, as did the Thessalonians, and to continue growing in such faith. The fact and hope of the coming of Jesus should keep us excited and anxious. We cannot ‘waver’ for His coming is soon. It was important that Thessalonians not waver, and so much more vital, that in these last, last days, we not waver either.
 
Upvote 0

murjahel

Senior Veteran
Oct 31, 2005
8,768
1,067
✟36,887.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
WHAT REWARDS, FOLLOWING THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH, CAN WE EXPECT?


The judgment seat of Christ occurs immediately after the rapture. All the saints will appear before Jesus.

II Corinthians 5:10
“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that everyone of us may receive the things done in the body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.”

Romans 14:10-12
“For we must all stand (appear) before the judgment seat of Christ... so then everyone of us shall give account of himself to God...”

There at the judgment seat, we will sit down with Christ on that ‘bema’ throne, and we will have a personal accounting time with Jesus. The ‘well done, thou good and faithful servant’ words, we all long to hear, will there be spoken.

Then we get to enter the throne room of God and find many other rewards of heaven. Rewards of heaven are beyond our imagination. The companionship with Christ... is inestimable. For the Lord has promised us, ‘that where I am there ye may be also.’ (John 14:3) There will be extreme joy there in heaven, beyond our understanding. For Matthew 25:23 says ‘enter thou into the joy of the Lord.’ There will be honors and rewards, mansions, and reunions with loved ones, that will make that place, beyond our most hopeful dreams.

Suddenly, at the rapture, we will be like Christ, in our glorified body.

I John 3:2, says ‘when He shall appear we shall be like Him.”

We shall then shine in radiant glory.

Daniel 2:2-3 says that the ‘wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament, and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars forever and ever.’

We shall be given authority, and crowns to rule and reign with Jesus. Revelation 20:6 says that ‘they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.’
The crown of life (James 1:12) will be given for those who were ‘tried’ and who ‘love Him’. The crown of righteousness (II Timothy 4:8) will be given to those who ‘love His appearing’.
The crown of glory shall be given (I Peter 5:1-4), and the crown of rejoicing (I Thessalonians 2:19-20) will be given for souls that have been won to Jesus through our evangelism efforts.




Because of these promised rewards, we should put away hindrances.

Hebrews 12:1
“let us lay aside every weight and the sin that doth so easily beset us...”

I Corinthians 9:26-27
“Therefore, so run, not as uncertainly, ... I keep my body under subjection...”

Because of these promised rewards, we should press toward our goal.

Philippians 3:13-14
“...forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.”

How will the Lord Jesus judge us? Our conduct toward others will be judged. Our labor done for the Lord will be measured. Our motives for such labor will be evaluated.
 
  • Like
Reactions: psalms 91
Upvote 0

murjahel

Senior Veteran
Oct 31, 2005
8,768
1,067
✟36,887.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
Ephesians 2:1-3 (KJV)
1 And you hath He quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world,
according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

Now, our spirits are redeemed, it is eternal in God, it is righteous and holy being clothed with the righteousness of God. We are saved from the curse, no longer in that former cursed state of the spirit, it now lives in union with God. We are no longer dead in our sins, being ruled by the prince of the power of the air. Still, being in this human body, we find easy to be disobedient, filled with lusts, and selfish desires, by nature of the curse upon the body that still is awaiting its redemption in getting that new body we are promised.

The most perfectly saved, the most righteous among us, still sweats, ages, tires, and is in a mortal body. This, of itself, is a horrible state to be in, and we still battle under the effects of the curse on the body until its redemption. Our spirit is now redeemed from the curse, but we await the body to be redeemed. The redemption is a ‘catharsis’ process, a cathartic release from the curse.

Romans 8:21-23 (KJV)
21 “Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
22 For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
23 And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.”

The redemption of the soul occurred at salvation, but the body still is mortal, the rapture changes us from mortal to immortal.
 
  • Like
Reactions: psalms 91
Upvote 0

murjahel

Senior Veteran
Oct 31, 2005
8,768
1,067
✟36,887.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
JESUS WILL SOON COME, GIVE US A NEW BODY, TAKE US TO OUR NEW HOME... AND WE ARE COMPLETELY, TOTALLY, AND PERFECTLY HEALED AT THAT TIME.

John 14:3
"If I go away, and prepare a place for you, I will come again."

Acts 1:11
"this same Jesus, who is taken up from you into heaven shall so come in like manner as ye have seen Him go up into heaven.'

There is a difference between the rapture of the church and the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. The second coming of Jesus is when He comes visibly to the earth and His feet touch the Mt. of Olives. He will remain for 1000 years and rule and reign with us. (Acts 1:11, Matt. 24:20, Zech. 14:4) The rapture occurs seven years earlier, before the tribulation. The rapture is the summons of the church to go to heaven. (I Thessalonians 4:13-18)


Soon, we shall be raptured, or if we die before the rapture, we will be resurrected. At that time, we receive a PERFECTLY HEALED BODY.

Our body will be like unto the resurrection body of Jesus. Paul tells us here in I Corinthians 15, that there will be differences of glory in these bodies. He tells us that they will be "incorruptible" (Greek = "Aphthorsia" = "immortal". He also says that these new bodies will be "spiritual" (Greek = "pneumatikos" = "immortal substance").

Some have imagined that since they are spiritual bodies, they have no substance. Yet the spiritual body of Christ could be handled, touched, could eat, etc. The idea of our mortal bodies is that they are flesh and blood. The life is in the blood. Jesus said of His spiritual body, that it was "flesh and bone." There was no mention of "blood", for the life of a spiritual body is the "Spirit." Thus, it will be immortal, and incorruptible because of the "Spirit" which gives it life. It will still be a physical body which can literally be touched, walk on streets of gold, occupy a heavenly mansion, etc.

Luke 24:39
"Behold, My hands and My feet, that it is Myself, handle me, and see; for a spirit (ghost) hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have."

I Corinthians 15:39-44
"All flesh is not the same flesh; but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds. There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another. There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differeth for another star in glory. So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption. It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body."

Our new resurrected bodies will be fitted for eternity. They will have a new vitality, and a new strength. There will be no curse, no sickness, and no death to afflict these resurrected bodies. No more sweating, no more childbirth pain for women, and no more aging, wrinkling, balding, etc. Eyesight will be perfect, hearing restored, etc. proves that we are in a new, eternal, perfectly healed body.

I John 3:2
"Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be; but we know that, when He shall appear, we shall be like Him; for we shall see Him as He is."
 
  • Like
Reactions: psalms 91
Upvote 0

murjahel

Senior Veteran
Oct 31, 2005
8,768
1,067
✟36,887.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
The Lord will someday speak forth the words, that will call us home to heaven, via the rapture. The truth of the rapture has a great, profound effect on the ones who embrace it.

Those who have been absent from loved ones who have died earlier, are assured by such rapture truth, that the reunion time is imminent and assured (I Thessalonians 4:13-18).

Those who are afflicted phycically can with the rapture truth, anticipate a time soon, that will mean no pain, no weakness, no deformity, and no suffering unto death, any longer. (I Corinthians 15:42-44)

Those who suffer poverty and absence of carnal mammon, can still joy in the riches of heaven, the heavenly inheritance soon to be found via the rapture. (I Peter 1:3-4)

Those who are persecuted can rest on the fact that saints will via the rapture, escape from the unfriendliness of this world (Galatians 1:4)

The truth of the rapture, awakens saints from spiritual drowsiness, to alertness and sober thinking. (Romans 13:11, I Thessalonians 5:6-7)

The truth of the rapture, when vivid in the minds of saints, makes the saints purify themselves, cleanse themselves from the defilements of sin. It puts a determination to be ready to soon stand before the Lord in the clouds (I John 3:2-3).

The coming rapture of the church, announced in heaven with a trumpet like shout from the Lord God, is an event that should have us gloriously expectant and anxious. Knowledge of it, is not enough, but a longing, a loving expectation is vital.

Revelation 4:
"Come up hither, and I will shew thee things which must be hereafter."


‘Come up hither” will be the Words trumpeted by the Lord, that will make these bodies be transformed into glorious, eternal, and incorruptible bodies... The atoms of the bodies of dead saints, whose spirits have already been in heaven, will be reunited in the clouds with those spirits. They will be made into glorious, eternal bodies also...

This passage is relating to us, John seeing in vision form, the rapture of the church...

Jesus will soon return. His coming will be in two stages. The first part is called the RAPTURE. It will occur before the tribulation judgments are sent by God upon the earth. In the rapture, the Lord Jesus will secretly catch away His saints.

The second stage of the Lord's coming is called the SECOND COMING. In this part, Jesus will return with the saints from heaven and begin to rule and reign on this earth for a thousand years.

In the RAPTURE He comes FOR His saints. In the SECOND COMING, He comes WITH His saints. Just as in the first coming of our Lord to earth, a time period of 33 years was spanned. In the next coming of our Lord, a time period of 7 years will be spanned.

Jesus had began talking of His return time to earth, even prior to the night of His betrayal. Jesus began referring to it, at Caesarea Philippi, about six months prior to His crucifixion.

Matthew 16:21
“From that time forth began Jesus to show unto His disciples, how that He must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests, and scribes. and be killed, and be raised again the third day.”

Shortly after that revelation, Jesus began to tell them of the second coming events.

Matthew 16:27
“The Son of Man shall come in the glory of His Father, with His angels.”

The message about His suffering and death, showed and revealed a separation time. There would be a few days of Jesus walking with them after the resurrection, but a longer separation time would shortly come, and Jesus wanted saints to know that He would someday have a reunion with His own.

John 14:3
“If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto Myself, that where I am, there ye may be also.”

A separation time, is painful, but when united with a promised reunion, it becomes bearable. Scoffers may challenge the promised returning, the reunion of saints with the Lord Jesus, but that is to be expected... Peter forewarned us of scoffers of such (II Peter 3:3-4). Yet, often in the Bible, we are foretold a reunion time with Jesus.

II Peter 3:10
“The day of the Lord will come.”
Revelation 22:20
“Surely, I come quickly.”
Jude 14
“Behold, the Lord cometh...”
Hebrews 10:37
“He that shall come, will come, and will not tarry.”​
 
  • Like
Reactions: psalms 91
Upvote 0

murjahel

Senior Veteran
Oct 31, 2005
8,768
1,067
✟36,887.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
There are a number of Greek words that are translated to describe the rapture.
HARPADZO =to be caught away, out of harms way by force
EKPHUGEIN = To escape away from a dreaded person or thing
APOLUTROSIS = to take unto oneself a valued object
All three indicate that the rapture would be BEFORE the thing can be harmed.

There are several other words referring to the coming of Jesus.​

Apokalupsis, has been used to refer to the message of this book, for this book titles itself, ‘the apokalupsis of Jesus Christ’...

This word means ‘unveiling, appearing, revelation, coming’.

It is also found in I Peter 1:13: “Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind; be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation (apokalupsis) of Jesus Christ.”

Also it is found in I Peter 1:7: “That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perishes, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honor and glory at the appearing (apokalupsis) of Jesus Christ.”

Paul also uses the word in I Corinthians 1:7: “So that ye come behind in no gift; waiting for the coming (apokalupsis) of our Lord Jesus Christ.”

Another word used to refer to Jesus’ coming, is parousia.

This word means ‘arrival’, or ‘presence’. It is generally translated ‘coming’ in the New Testament. The word expresses two ideas, that of arrival, and presence, presenting the idea of one becoming present, via an arrival time. Our word for ‘visit’ is a close analogy. The word suggests a personal nature of an arrival, one with the Person actually being present, making the arrival a ‘visit’. It is used to refer to the nature of the coming of Jesus, and is used both of the rapture and the second coming, in fact this word is indicative of both events, both being part of the one ‘parousia’. Paul urges the Philippians to be obedient during his absence (apousia), as they were during his presence (parousia) [Philippians 2:12]. The word means a personal bodily presence...

Parousia is used in I Corinthians 15:23: “But every man in his own order, Christ the firstfruits, afterward, they that are Christ’s, at His coming (parousia).”

Also it is used in I Thessalonians 2:19: “For what is our hope, or joy, or crown of rejoicing? Are not even ye in the presence of of our Lord Jesus Christ, at His coming (parousia)?”

For more use of this word, see I Thess. 3:13, 4:15, 5:23, II Thess. 2:1, ,8, James 5:7-8, II Peter 1:16, and I John 2:28. These passages and the use of the word ‘parousia’ show a faith in a personal bodily return of the Lord, to rapture the church, and to come soon thereafter that in a bodily return to rule the world.

Another word, ephiphaneia, meaning ‘an appearing, a ‘manifestation’, a ‘shining forth’ is used in reference to Jesus’ coming.

A false, heretical teaching of Jesus coming being only that of a spiritual nature, not of a bodily appearing was confronted vigorously by the early church, and is to be so confronted by the last day church. The word epiphaneia, is a word that attacked such heresy then, and today.

The word is used of Paul to describe Jesus first coming. II Timothy 1:10 “But now is made manifest, by the appearing (epiphaneia) of our Savior Jesus Christ, Who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel.”

Then Paul also uses the word to refer to the coming of Jesus for His church, via rapture, in Titus 2:12-14: “teaching us... we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing (epiphaneia) of the Great God and of our Savior, Jesus Christ.”

Thus, the appearing of Jesus the ‘epiphaneia’, is a bodily appearing, not a spiritual presence, and is just as bodily as was His first appearance, in His first coming.

Then Paul uses the same word to refer to the second coming, following the rapture and the tribulation judgments, when Jesus appears to rule and to reign with the saints. II Thessalonians 2:8: “then shall the wicked one be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume... destroy with the brightness of His coming (epiphaneia).”... Thus, the second coming of Jesus, is also a bodily appearing....

Hebrews 9:24, 26, and 28 show this same truth. These verse show that Jesus is presently ‘appearing’ at the presence of God to intercede for us (verse 24), but is the same Jesus Who ‘appeared’ to put away sin (in His first coming), and will soon ‘appear’ in His second coming for those that ‘look for Him’. All three ‘epiphaneia’ appearances are bodily appearances.

The word ‘epiphaneia’ carries with it a teaching that the High Priest Who passed into the heavens, to intercede for us, at the right hand of the Father, will soon ‘appear’ also, bodily as He did the first time in His first coming, and like He bodily appears next to the Father now, in another coming, for we who look for Him.

In the prophecy of Daniel, seventy sevens of years are given to Israel. Sixty nine of those have occurred, and the last seven of years is yet to occur. When the Lord has finished dealing with the Gentile church, He will again deal with the nation of Israel for seven years. This is the 70th week of Daniel, that we commonly call "the tribulation." Why should the church remain here for the Lord's final dealing with Israel ?
 
Upvote 0

murjahel

Senior Veteran
Oct 31, 2005
8,768
1,067
✟36,887.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
The tribulation is a time of wrath on an ungodly world, on an apostate, backslidden church, and on a backslidden Israel. We, the true church, are "NOT APPOINTED UNTO WRATH." (I Thessalonians 5:9) And consider - I Thessalonians 1:10 "TO WAIT FOR HIS SON FROM HEAVEN...WHICH DELIVERED US FROM THE WRATH TO COME."

In the Scriptures, types are used to illustrate the picture of the rapture which was to be fully revealed later. In the rapture of Enoch, it came before the judgment of the flood. In the story of Lot and his family, they were delivered before the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. These show that the nature of God is to deliver His own, before He pours out His wrath. The rapture of the church precedes the tribulation. The Bible teaches us that the Antichrist will not be revealed until the church is removed from the earth.

II Thessalonians 2:6-8 "HE THAT LETTETH (hinders) WILL LET (hinder), UNTIL HE BE TAKEN OUT OF THE WAY. AND THEN SHALL THAT WICKED (one) BE REVEALED..."

Some have argued that the "he" of the verse does not refer to the "church," because the church is the "bride of Christ."

However, the church is not referred to by feminine pronouns, is not symbolized by a woman, and is not the "bride of Christ."(See Rev. 21:9-10)

The church is called a "man" in Ephesians 2:15, 4:13.

Also the church is called the "body of Christ" in I Corinthians 12:12-13, 27, Ephesians 1:22-23, and Colossians 1:18, 24.

So it is most appropriate to refer to the church as "he."

The church is the only "hinderer" of lawlessness that will be taken out of the world before the tribulation.

The Holy Spirit will remain on the earth since there will be people being saved during most of the tribulation.
(John 14:16, Acts 2:16-21, Rev. 12:17, with 19:10, Zechariah 12:10 to 13:1).

Many ask: "Where is the promise of His coming?" These scoffers doubt and mock the idea of the rapture of the church.

Others say: "Why study it ? There are too many different opinions." Some will say: "It is too speculative."

Some just want to recite all the different ideas, leave everyone confused, and draw no conclusions on the rapture. Scoffers have done their work. They have brought into a great portion of the church--confusion, apathy, and ignorance--about the rapture. God did not intend for Christians to be confused, apathetic, or ignorant. He means for us to have knowledge, awareness, and an anxiousness for the rapture.

I Thessalonians 4:15-17
"WE WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN UNTO THE COMING OF THE LORD SHALL NOT PRECEDE THEM THAT ARE ASLEEP (dead)--FOR THE LORD HIMSELF SHALL DESCEND WITH A SHOUT (Rev. 4:1), WITH THE VOICE OF THE ARCHANGEL, AND THE TRUMP OF GOD, AND THE DEAD IN CHRIST SHALL RISE FIRST, AND THEN WE WHICH ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN SHALL BE CAUGHT UP (Greek = harpadzo, to catch away out of harm's way) TOGETHER WITH THEM IN THE CLOUDS TO MEET THE LORD IN THE AIR, AND SO SHALL WE EVER BE WITH THE LORD."

Luke 21:36
"WATCH YE THEREFORE AND PRAY ALWAYS THAT YE MAY BE ACCOUNTED WORTHY TO ESCAPE ALL THESE THINGS THAT SHALL COME TO PASS AND TO STAND BEFORE THE SON OF MAN."

I Corinthians 15:51-52
"BEHOLD, I SHOW YOU A MYSTERY, WE SHALL NOT ALL SLEEP (die), BUT WE SHALL ALL BE CHANGED. IN A MOMENT, IN A TWINKLING OF AN EYE, AT THE LAST TRUMP--FOR THE TRUMP SHALL SOUND (Rev. 4:1, I Thess. 4:15-17) AND THE DEAD SHALL BE RAISED INCORRUPTIBLE, AND WE SHALL BE CHANGED..."

II Thessalonians 2:1
"NOW WE BESEECH YOU BRETHREN, BY THE COMING OF THE LORD JESUS CHRIST AND BY OUR GATHERING TOGETHER UNTO HIM..."

The signs for the coming of the Lord that are given us in the Word of God--all point to the second stage of His coming. They point to the SECOND COMING, not to the RAPTURE. Thus, when we see these things "begin to come to pass," we are told to "look up" for the signs point to the part of His coming that is seven years after the event we want so much to see -- THE RAPTURE.
 
Upvote 0

murjahel

Senior Veteran
Oct 31, 2005
8,768
1,067
✟36,887.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
At one point in His earthly ministry, Jesus rebuked the Pharisees, who knew the Holy Scriptures, yet did not recognize Him as the Messiah, and did not know it was time for His coming. (Matthew 16:1-4)

Yet, there are seven times more Scriptures for the second coming of Jesus that there are for the first coming. So if the Lord were angered by their lack of understanding of the times--how much more is He disturbed by those who do not know when it is the time of His coming?
 
Upvote 0

murjahel

Senior Veteran
Oct 31, 2005
8,768
1,067
✟36,887.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
Rev 4:
and One sat on the throne.

God, as a Person, can sit on a literal throne. When John is raptured into a vision of the rapture day, he records in Rev. 4 and 5, a description from his eyes, of that event. It is marvellous to read, and confirmed by other writings and Scriptures that this is the very rapture day that he is foreseeing.

Why do we not see a description of the crowd of saints? That troubles some.... but... look at these two chapters... For instance, chapter 4 should be called the 'throne chapter'... for 12 times in 11 verses, we find John looking and describing what is happening right about the throne... Also, four times in those same verses, it refers to God ‘sitting’ or ‘sat’ on such a throne. The whole attention of John, is on one part of that throne room... on the Throne, and what is taking place in the immediate vicinity of it alone. The Throne room is a vast room, for it will hold all saints of all ages, multitudes of angels without number, and much more... So, to describe only one part of this room, is all that John does, and likely all that he can do... For all he seems to notice here, is the throne. The throne grasped John's attention, and that is all that he was truly fixated upon... What would you see, if you were there???

I remember when I was about 7 or 8, my dad took me to my first big league ball game... I could have looked at Larry Doby, Bob Feller, Bob Lemon... etc... but, no, my eyes, throughout most of the game, were on the crowd... I had never seen such a crowd...

I watched them, studied them, but cannot remember the game. It was too far away, too uninteresting to me...

John is suddenly in heaven, in vision form.... and what does he notice??? For him, it was not the crowd, the multitudes of saints, the commotion about him, or beside him... No, the crowd to him, was way down on his list... of what to notice, and describe to us, for his eyes were fixated on what ours will be when we get there.... the throne of God....

Take notice of what John describes here, it is all a description of the throne of God, and on the things right near to that...

vs. 2... 'behold, a throne...."
vs. 2 'One sat on the throne...'
vs. 3 'there was a rainbow round about the throne...'
vs. 4 'round about the throne were 24 seats'
vs. 5 'out of the throne proceeded lightnings, thunderings, and voices...'
vs. 5 'seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne'
vs. 6 'before the throne was a sea of glass like unto crystal'
vs. 6 'in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne were four beasts (living ones)...'
vs. 9 'those beasts (zoa, living ones) give glory, honor, and thanks to Him Who sat on the throne...'
vs. 10 'the 24 elders fall down before Him Who sat on the throne..."
vs. 10 'cast their crowns before the throne...'


John is fixated on the throne... A world series game could have been going on next to him, the Super bowl could be in the last minute of the fourth quarter, being played on the pavement of that throne room... and he would not have described it for us... John is looking at what is most interesting in that vast room... the throne of God....

Would you have been different??? John, we learn soon after this, is accompanied on this vision and revelation by one of the prophets of the O.T. period.... He has not even noticed the guy next to him yet, when we read this in chapter 4 and 5 of the rapture day...

If when the rapture day occurs, and you find yourself looking at the floor beneath you, the guy standing behind you, the fig tree growing next to you, or the throne you are sitting on... I would be shocked...

The ONE of all eternity...
The ONE Who sent Jesus to die on the cross for me...
the ONE Who chose to forgive me...
The Creator, The Almighty God, the Ruler of the Universe sits on a throne before you... and you would not describe the crowd that came to see Him... for your eyes, like John's would be fixated on HIM... If not... perhaps you will not be there to see the event at all....


Chapter 5 goes on, with many more references to 'the throne'... describing the events of Jesus taking the book from the right hand of the ONE on the throne... and opening such book... breaking the seals... These events of chapter 5 also help us place this event... For they confirm this is a future event that John is seeing, for those seal judgments have not yet started...
For the first four seals result in over a billion deaths on this earth, with a war that will destroy the U.S.A.... among other nations, and set the tribulation judgments into operation...

So... what John was seeing was a future event.... and since the 24 elders about the throne have 'crowns' it must be post rapture, and pre tribulation time... for no saint gets his crown till rapture day.... and the 24 already have them.....

II Timothy 4:8
“Henceforth, there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, shall give me at that day; and not to me only, but to all them that love His appearing

So this event, that John foresees, is after crowns are passed out, and before the seven seals are opened that start the tribulation... His fixation on the throne, withstanding, it does not take an Einstein to figure out what day that is, that John was viewing...

This is ‘coronation day’ foreseen by John, at least for us, we will have received crowns. That day is longed for by saints, and we have often failed to realize how much God longs for such a day too. Sin broke communion of God with mankind, sin put a wall of separation between us and God. Jesus came to pay a price to restore such, and our spirits have already been redeemed, and entered the kingdom. But our bodies are not yet in the kingdom, they still suffer pain, age, and abuse... But following the rapture, we will be in our glorified bodies...

Romans 8:19-23
“For the earnest expectation of the creature (creation) waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God. For the creature (this bodily creation) was made subject to vanity, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope.
Because the creature itself also shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit the redemption of the body.”

So, we are in a body, waiting with groanings and sufferings for the coronation day in heaven... We long for it, the Lord longs for it... Jesus came to make a way, and went to prepare a place for us to come to... and this day described in Rev. 4 and 5, is that coronation day, which should be a day we long for... we feel the ‘Spirit and the bride say come...’

Rev. 22:17
“And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that is heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take of the water of life freely.”

That desire for this coronation day, this day longed for by the Spirit, by the Lord Jesus, and by God the Father... should be longed for by we the saints too.... It troubles me that some want to skip over these chapters 4 and 5, and ignore the monumental importance of such a day. God recorded a description of parts of it, so we could rejoice in anticipation of soon participating in it...

Micaiah saw God Jehovah seated on this throne (I Kings 22:19, II Chronicles 18:8).

Isaiah saw the Lord, high and lifted up, seated on this same throne, and what looked like God’s ‘train’ filled the Temple throne room (Isaiah 6:1).

Ezekiel saw the throne (Ezekiel 1:26), Daniel did likewise (Daniel 7:9), and obviously, here in Revelation, John sees God upon the throne...

These are awesome visions to have, to see the very throne of God.
And it will capture our attention quite easily, for no other sight in the universe will compare in its awesomeness.
 
Upvote 0

murjahel

Senior Veteran
Oct 31, 2005
8,768
1,067
✟36,887.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
CHAPTERS 4 & 5 OF REVELATION ARE A PROPHETIC VIEW OF RAPTURE DAY IN HEAVEN.......... AND THE TRIBULATION ON EARTH BEGINS FOLLOWING THE EVENTS IN HEAVEN OF THAT DAY...

REVELATION 5:1-6

1. And I saw in the right hand of Him Who sat on the throne
a book written within on the backside, sealed with seven seals.

"a book..." The sealed book was not a volume as we would have today, but it was rather a rolled parchment. It was rolled up to a point and sealed, then it was rolled further and sealed again. The book was sealed seven times.

What is this book ? In Jeremiah chapter 32, Hanameel, Jeremiah's cousin, offered a piece of land for Jeremiah to buy. Jeremiah had said that Israel would be held captive for 70 years. The people hated Jeremiah for his prophecy. Hanameel challenged Jeremiah to buy the plot of land upon which the Babylonians were encamped. This land in the natural was worthless. Hanameel said that if Jeremiah really believed the prophecy, he would purchase this worthless land for his descendants. Jeremiah prayed, and then purchased the land. The title deed was made on a rolled book and hidden away for Jeremiah's descendants to find.

The seven sealed book is also a title deed. God has a claim on this world, and someday will bring out His title deed and lay claim to it.

The ‘seal’ first involved an instrument of stone or metal, with some engraving or figure, which was used to press onto some soft substance, as wax or clay, to affix a document, indicating authenticity. This signet stone was often hung around one’s neck, or on the hand as a ring. In Genesis 38:18-25, we see that Judah pledged his word to Tamar by leaving with her, his signet, cord and staff. This shows the early nature of the idea of having a ‘signature’ seal. Likely, every Hebrew of any standing wore a signet seal.

The use of ‘sealing’ was to give proof of authenticity and authority to letters, royal commands, and business transactions.

It served the purpose of a modern signature. Many in that time could not read, and messages would be read to them, but by looking at the ‘seal’ they could ascertain who the person was that sent such letter.

A rolled document intended for preservation, would be sealed up, and deposited in a place of safety. (Jer. 32:14) In sealing the rolled book, it was wrapped round with flaxen thread or soft string, then a lump of clay was attached to it, impressed with a seal. This seal was not to be broken, unless done by an authorized person.

Sin of sinners, unrepentant, and still unjudged sin, is said to be stored up by God against the sinner, under a seal.

Deuteronomy 32:34-35
“Is it not laid u in store with Me, and sealed among My treasures? To Me belongeth vengeance and recompense; their foot shall slide in due time; for the day of their calamity is at hand, and the things that shall come upon them, make haste.”

Job 14:16-17
“For now Thou numberest my steps; dost thou not watch over my sin? My transgression is sealed up in a bag, and thou sewest up mine iniquity.”

So, this book could include all the sins of mankind, sealed up to be remembered in the last days, to bring to pass, the judgments decided upon when the sins occurred, but saved for the last days.

This book would therefore be a book of the wrath of God.

Daniel was told to ‘shut up the words’ of his prophetic book, and to ‘seal the book, even to the time of the end...” (Daniel 12:4)

This book could therefore include, the prophetic revelation of the end times, with judgments predicted long ago, now being revealed.

Therefore, this book is likely, the title deed of the world, now to be opened and laid claim to by our Lord Jesus. It is also a book recording the sins of the ages, unrepented sins, now demanding judgment. And it is a revelation of end times, now to be fully fulfilled.

REV 5:2
And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice:
Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof?


Who is worthy to open this book and lay claim to the earth ? Who alone is sinless, that He could be the Judge of all others who have sinned? Who is worthy to be the fulfillment of all prophecy???

Heaven will be searched and only One will be found to be worthy to claim the earth. Jesus, the Lamb... His name is above every other name.

Philippians 2:9
"Wherefore God hath highly exalted Him, and given Him a name which is above every other name."

All are offered to share His name, the mightiest, the humblest, the wisest, and the simplest. Jesus came to save all who would accept Him. He offers the name "CHRISTIAN" to all.

He leads those who accept His name. He has gone the way before us to prepare a way for us. He makes that way as easy as He can. Without Him, we would be "of all men most miserable... (I Cor. 15:19). Salvation is in Him alone, and power is in Him alone.

Are you a "Christ one"? At one point in His ministry, Jesus made the following of Him a bit more difficult. Many of His disciples left Him.

John 6:66
"From that time many of His disciples followed Him no more."

At the cross, many fled or "followed afar off." Today there are many who have ceased to follow Jesus, or who follow afar off. What persecution came to cause this? Why would one cease to talk of Jesus? Aren't Christians today willing to bear the cross of Jesus? The shame, reproach, and the mockery of those who proclaim Jesus is too hard for many today. They therefore lose the glory, the power, the revival, the blessing, and the presence of JESUS.
Those who share the ‘shaming of the world’ today, for bearing His name, will someday share the joy of this One in heaven, on that day.

Some have just become deadenly familiar with the Lord. One can live on the mountain top, and become so familiar with the glorious view, that they cease to see it. The Christians at Ephesus lost their "first love."

Revelation 2:4
"Nevertheless, I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left they first love..."


Many Christians today have left their first love of the Lord Jesus. We need to restore our first love for Jesus.

Peter on the mount of transfiguration, became callous to the real calling of Jesus. He suggested they "stay here...let them come to us..." Some today have lost the real relationship with Jesus, and callously sit in a pew, and wait for sinners to flock to them. We need to get so in love with Jesus, that we are everywhere, speaking His name, sharing our relationship with Jesus with others.

Thus the Lamb is the only One who is worthy to take the book from the hand of the Lord. Only Jesus has a right to the "title deed" of the Lord. Only Jesus is sinless, and can judge the sins of others. Only Jesus can be the Judge, for all others deserve judgment.

REV5:3.
And no man: in heaven, nor in the earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon.


Notice the three locations of mankind,

‘in heaven’.. Indicating all the raptured saints, now standing before the throne, as this vision is progressing. Yet of all the patriarchs, prophets, saints of all the ages, none is worthy to open this book. So awesome a book, is not even able for mankind to look upon.

‘In the earth’... Literally, meaning ‘on’ the earth. There are still mankind on the earth, some of which will be saved before the end. The 144,000 Jews are likely beginning to be sealed about that time... Yet, none there were worthy to open this book.

“Neither under the earth...” Paradise was within the earth, for Jesus spent three days and three nights in the ‘heart of the earth,’ and yet, told the thief on the cross, that ‘today thou shalt be with Me in paradise.’ Therefore, there is a place within the earth that mankind could dwell. But, even of this place, within the bowels of the earth, there is no one found that is worthy to open this awesome book.

MORE TO COME
 
Upvote 0

murjahel

Senior Veteran
Oct 31, 2005
8,768
1,067
✟36,887.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
THY KING COMETH UNTO THEE !


Zechariah 9:9 (KJV)
9 Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion;
shout, O daughter of Jerusalem:
behold, thy King cometh unto thee:
He is just, and having salvation;
lowly, and riding upon an ass,
and upon a colt the foal of an ass.​

We, like they of that time of this verse, are called upon to REJOICE and to SHOUT, for our King Jesus is coming to us. We are in the last days, uncertain of how long we have to go, but sure that it cannot be long. The world is getting worse and worse, sin is horrendous, and seemingly everywhere. The crime is increasing, the love is decreasing, the dangers of earthly life are more than we ever thought we would see. Yet, we are to look up, for our redemption, i.e. King Jesus, draweth nigh.

Jesus came the first time, riding on a donkey and its colt. (Matt. 21:1-9).

Soon, Jesus will rapture us away, and then seven years later, we return with Him, and He will not then come so humbly. He shall come as King Jesus.

King Jesus will judge the unreliable, unrighteous, evil, criminal human leaders of nations. King Jesus will come to completely restore His people.

The time when Jesus first came, some valued Him for a mere 30 pieces of silver, the price of a slave. Yet, when He comes the next time, it will be as King Jesus. He comes to claim the earth as His possession, His creation, and He will rule as a Theocracy.

Do not fret the news reports, do not despair the elections of the world, do not worry over global warming or economic, fiscal cliffs. King Jesus will rule, and the scoundrels of this world that are good at creating crisis, condoning sin and degradation will be removed from power.

We are told to shout and to rejoice, for King Jesus has already come, and paid the price for our sins on the cross, has been resurrected by conquering sin and death, has departed to intercede for us, and will return soon as conquering King!
 
Upvote 0

murjahel

Senior Veteran
Oct 31, 2005
8,768
1,067
✟36,887.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
Psalm 24:7-10 (KJV)
Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle. Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift them up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in. Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, He is the King of glory. Selah.​


All honour and glory belongs to King Jesus. We long for Him to come. We want to be ready, for He is KING OF GLORY.

Matthew 6:13 (KJV)
... For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

1 Corinthians 2:8 (KJV)
... for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.


Christ makes us to be partakers of His glory. We have power from Him, to meet any attack from the devil. The glory and power of King Jesus is far, far, greater than any power of evil.

The King of glory, King Jesus, has onquered all His enemies, and made them to be His footstool. He has triumphed over death, the devil, and sin. Inasmuch as He has died for our sins, has risen again for our justification, and has ascended to heaven to intercede there for us, we can rejoice we have the glorious King Jesus Who rules us.

We do not fight any battle alone. We are delivered from all that hate us, and thus we are all victors, since we have the King of glory, King Jesus.

1 Corinthians 15:57 (KJV)
57 But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

Romans 8:37 (KJV)
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him that loved us.

King Jesus is our Lord, and is strong and mighty. He is strong and mighty in subduing all enemies, and overcomes sin, death and the devil.

Rejoice in the ‘King of glory’. He is coming SOOOOOON.
 
Upvote 0

murjahel

Senior Veteran
Oct 31, 2005
8,768
1,067
✟36,887.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Pentecostal
Marital Status
Married
THE PROCESS OF PURIFICATION
WILL SOON COMPLETE
AT THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH​


We would all like to be ‘pure’, ‘holy’, and totally righteous. Yet, in all humility, we need to realize that we are still bound in this ‘carnal’ body, and until the rapture, we are subject to failures and shortcomings. The call to ‘purity’, to take it on ourselves to ‘purify’ this carnal person, and be holy, is normally ignored, shied away from, or given an apathetic nod. We know our own weaknesses and failures are far more common than we like to admit.

Holy living in Greek society was abnormal. There was a laxity of morals, and the idea of ‘sanctification’, of being holy for a God, of having to change from wicked living, to be pleasing to deity... was totally foreign to these people.

Today in our country, we find the same type of thing. In the sitcoms of television, immorality, unethical, illegal behavior is seen in the ‘heroes’ or stars of the program. Pornography, incest, abortion, homosexuality, vengeance, and foul language are the norm of television and movie plots. The heroes the television and movie stories are not the kind of people you would trust your child to ride with to the mall. Yet, we have ‘praised’ their performance, awarded prizes to the shows, and let our children sit and watch them. The morals we are developing in our society, are nearing what they were in Thessalonica in Paul’s day.

Paul takes a firm stand, he says sanctification is not an option, but mandatory. He claims it to be the ‘will of God’. The people are to completely separate themselves, and their behavior to that which would please a holy God. Wrong passions bring punishment, for the “Lord is the avenger’.

Paul goes so far as to tell them, that to ‘despise’ another brother or sister in the Lord, is to despise God. How fearful to be treated by God, as though you had told Him that you hated Him. The hope of His coming, should purify us, make us totally unlike this sinful, immoral, hateful world.

I John 3:3
“And every man that hath this hope in him,
purifieth himself, even as He is pure.”

I Thessalonians 4:
9. But as touching brotherly love ye need not that I write unto you: for ye yourselves are taught of God to love one another.
10. And indeed ye do it toward all the brethren which are in all Macedonia: but; we beseech you, brethren, that ye increase more and more



God has shown the world, what true and real love is. If we follow His example, and teaching, we will know the difference between love and lust. Lust is selfish, destructive. Love is selfless and constructive. When we do not love a Christian brother, God takes it personally.

I John 4:7-8
“Beloved, let us love one another, for love is of God and every one that loveth is born of God and knoweth God. He that loveth not, knoweth not God, for God is love.”


Love either grows or lessons; so, although the Thessalonians loved, there was more, and they could increase in the love they had. Do you love the Lord more than ever before? Do you love your wife and children more than ever? If we are in the perfect will of God, as Paul is instructing here, we are to be growing in love, and ‘increasing more and more’ in love.

I Thessalonians 4:
11. And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;
12. That ye may walk honestly toward them that are without, and that ye may have lack of nothing.



Paul then advises that they are to have a quiet, industrious life. Practical righteousness is needed, and this practical righteousness is not a list of do’s and ‘don’t’s, with ‘clothes line’ mentality of the ‘holiness nit-pickers’, but it is a fervent love for God and others that Paul wants to see exercised. Fervent love is shown in actions, but the actions are a natural by-product of this love.

Christians are a living epistle, ‘known and read of all men’ (II Corinthians 3:2). Our conduct as Christians can others to bless or curse the Lord. We can inspire others to want to know the One we serve, or we can ‘blaspheme’ God via our behavior.

Romans 2:24
“For the name of God is blasphemed among the gentiles through you.”

I Timothy 6:1
“Let as many as be servants that be under the yoke count their masters worthy of all honor that the name of God and His doctrine be not blasphemed.”

Titus 2:4-5
“teach the young women to be sober, to love their husbands, to love their children, to be discreet, chaste, keepers at home, good, obedient to their husbands, that the Word of God be not blasphemed.”


Paul saw a need here, for these people to get busy, settle down, do their work, and love one another, in other words to ‘get busy’ in the process of purification.

God demands obedience, and requires confession of the sins of failure in this obedience. We were created to share His nature. ‘Be ye holy, for I am holy” but are not able to be perfect while in this carnal flesh. So, we enter the process of purification, and allow the Lord to work in our hearts, making us more and more to be perfect, and we repent of all failures.

God’s laws are not insensitive nor illogical. They are decrees designed to bring us into His love, and to help us share His nature. We are to be a ‘holy temple.’ This temple, while still here on earth, needs frequent cleansings, and the defiled needs purified.

I Corinthians 3:16-17
“Know ye not that ye are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? For the temple of God is holy, which temple are ye.”


How much sin can we get away with? How sad to hear Christians voice such thoughts, and complain because we cannot do something sinful. We are ‘bought with a price’ (I Cor. 6:19-20). We are to have a nature like unto God’s own, and we are to be seeking that ‘impossible’ goal, not seeking to see how ‘sinful’ can we be.

God wants us blameless at His coming.

I Thessalonians 5:22-23
“Abstain from all appearance of evil, and the God of peace sanctify you wholly, and I pray God your whole spirit, soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.”


The word ‘unto’ in that passage is the Greek word ‘en’ meaning ‘in’. In the time of His presence appearing to us in the rapture, we are to be then, and not until then, totally purified, with the carnal flesh left behind in the rapture.

The word ‘coming’ in the above verse, is parousia, referring to the ‘appearing’ time of Jesus in the rapture. It is then, our carnal body is left behind, our new, eternal, and holy body is taken on, and we are ‘blameless’ and purified in His sight.

Since we know He will soon appear in the clouds, we are to be in the process of purification. We want to ‘purify’ ourselves, in a process of repenting of failures, seeking to live more as did Jesus, and so when He appears in the clouds, when He calls us to rise up to Him, we will have repented, acknowledged in confession for all of which we are ashamed. Therefore, the expectation of His coming, gives us reason to purify ourselves.

I John 3:3
“And every man that hath this hope in him,
purifieth himself, even as He is pure.”​




THIS PROCESS CONTINUES THOUGH OUR LIVES,
AND IS NOT COMPLETED
TILL WE MEET JESUS IN THE CLOUDS​


Ephesians 5:26-27 (KJV)
26 That He might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
27 That He might present it to Himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.


Jesus, often using the Word of God, is in a process of purifying us, cleansing us, with the ‘washing of the water by the Word’. This process is going on, so that when we stand in the clouds, being presented to Him, we will then be pure, cleansed. Since it is not till then that the ‘carnal’ person in each of us cannot any longer battle the desire we have to be pure in Him.

When Jesus presents us to Himself in the clouds, we will be totally purified, free from the carnality of our person. Till then, we let Him continue us in the process of purification.
 
Upvote 0
Status
Not open for further replies.