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Praying to Juan Gabriel???

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Catholics not only pray to saints canonized by the Catholic Church, they pray to people who have passed away who haven’t been canonized. In fact, it is apparently impossible for a saint to be canonized until people pray to a deceased person and claim that miracles happened.

Last month I read a letter to the editor from a local woman, a Catholic, who talked about the saints that she prays to. Juan Gabriel is one of her two favorite saints.

Juan Gabriel (1950-2016) is a Mexican singer. His real name is Alberto Aguilera Valadez, meaning that his father’s last name is Aguilera and his mother’s last name is Valadez. There are probably people on CF who know far more about his music than I do. He was born poor but amassed considerable wealth as a singer and did give considerable amounts to charity.

According to Wikipedia, Juan Gabriel never married but fathered six children by three different women. He had four children with Laura Salas, and this relationship is well known. According to the tabloids he had two other children.

Juan Gabriel’s accomplishments as a singer, songwriter, actor and music producer are impressive. He sold over a hundred million albums and wrote more than 1,800 songs. Even in the US, he received the Latin Songwriter of the Year Award in 1995, 1996, and 1998.

He did give several concerts a year to benefit charity. He also gave generously to children’s homes.

I am not certain that Juan Gabriel is officially a Roman Catholic. The biographical info that I have seen says that before he was famous he worked as a janitor at a Methodist Church. He sang in the choir at the same church.

Overall, it looks like Alberto Aguilera, also known as Juan Gabriel, has a strong record as a Latin entertainer but it doesn’t look like he is a saint.
 

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In the Catholic tradition, and in my Anglican tradition, it is reasonable to ask for anyone to pray for you, whether they are still living or whether they have gone to be with God. It's possible for someone to be a saint and for the church not to recognize that yet. (Canonization isn't turning someone into a saint -- the Holy Spirit does that. Canonization is official recognition that a person was a saint. I expect that there are lots of ordinary non-famous people who lived lives of extraordinary dedication to God who will never be officially canonized but who were saints nevertheless.)

How close was Juan Gabriel to God? I have no idea; I'd never heard of him before today. Maybe he was a flawed human being who loved and served God. Or maybe not.

If the woman is asking for Juan Gabriel's prayers, well, God can probably sort out what she means, even if he isn't in a position to pray for her. The Spirit intercedes for us when we don't know how to pray, and all that.

If she's praying to him like he's a god, then her understanding of Catholic theology is a little off; perhaps her parish priest can help her sort out the theological subtleties at some point.

[ I think I've represented Catholic theology correctly here, because I think it's similar to my own views on prayer and the saints, but I invite corrections from Catholic readers if I've gotten it wrong. ]
 
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