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<blockquote data-quote="Eudaimonist" data-source="post: 60028721" data-attributes="member: 6065"><p>Me: Does this mean that you believe that the Christian should pray that tragedy will befall atheists in life, so that they might possibly rethink their views?</p><p> </p><p>GA777 (reply): <strong>If they would never change their views if tragedy wouldn't have fallen, then of course as long as the tragedy brings no damnation/suffering to any soul.</strong></p><p> </p><p>So praying for tragedy to befall others is acceptable to you under some circumstances. This isn't surprising, but it never ceases to amaze me that people hold this view.</p><p> </p><p>Me: Since when has an atheist ever become a Christian because others prayed for him? I'm guessing that number is precisely zero. Or are you talking about the atheist engaging in prayer?</p><p> </p><p>GA777: <strong>You're guessing.</strong></p><p> </p><p>Yes, that's why I said so.</p><p> </p><p>GA777:<strong> Many atheists/non-Christians who converted, mentioned the importance of being prayed for</strong></p><p> </p><p>In what way did they think that the prayers helped in their conversion?</p><p> </p><p>GA777: <strong>not to mention that prayer can lead God to do anything without contradicting his will which is fulfilling justice.</strong></p><p> </p><p>Why does God need "leading"? Why wouldn't he simply do the same thing anyway?</p><p> </p><p>GA777: <strong>Furthermore, there are some specialized prayers for unbelievers</strong></p><p> </p><p>Specialized prayers? Of what sort? What is being prayed for? Why are there still believers if you have this arsenal of prayers with which to lead God?</p><p> </p><p> </p><p><em>eudaimonia</em>,</p><p> </p><p>Mark</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eudaimonist, post: 60028721, member: 6065"] Me: Does this mean that you believe that the Christian should pray that tragedy will befall atheists in life, so that they might possibly rethink their views? GA777 (reply): [B]If they would never change their views if tragedy wouldn't have fallen, then of course as long as the tragedy brings no damnation/suffering to any soul.[/B] So praying for tragedy to befall others is acceptable to you under some circumstances. This isn't surprising, but it never ceases to amaze me that people hold this view. Me: Since when has an atheist ever become a Christian because others prayed for him? I'm guessing that number is precisely zero. Or are you talking about the atheist engaging in prayer? GA777: [B]You're guessing.[/B] Yes, that's why I said so. GA777:[B] Many atheists/non-Christians who converted, mentioned the importance of being prayed for[/B] In what way did they think that the prayers helped in their conversion? GA777: [B]not to mention that prayer can lead God to do anything without contradicting his will which is fulfilling justice.[/B] Why does God need "leading"? Why wouldn't he simply do the same thing anyway? GA777: [B]Furthermore, there are some specialized prayers for unbelievers[/B] Specialized prayers? Of what sort? What is being prayed for? Why are there still believers if you have this arsenal of prayers with which to lead God? [I]eudaimonia[/I], Mark [/QUOTE]
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