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I had a teacher once who used to be a priest but then left to get married. His kids also went to my school. It's very unfortunate...
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Shannon my prayers are going up for you and your family. You are such an amazing woman I can just speculate on how amazing your brother is. Praying for you sister.
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Praying for you, Shannon.
PLEASE try to trust in God's mercy and not to take it too hard. There are much worse human and spiritual misfortunes than this one. Twenty years down the line, who knows what wonderful work your brother may be engaged in... as a priest OR as a layman? Praying for that.
Why did the Church refuse to laicize him? I have never heard of that happening before.
PLEASE try to trust in God's mercy and not to take it too hard. There are much worse human and spiritual misfortunes than this one. Twenty years down the line, who knows what wonderful work your brother may be engaged in... as a priest OR as a layman? Praying for that.
Why did the Church refuse to laicize him? I have never heard of that happening before.
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Shannon - I have just replied to Mister Emu on another thread, and I suddenly realise that it just MAY be relevant here as well. What you are suffering from MIGHT be a temptation from the devil, to damage your love for your brother, the harmony of the family, and your own peace of mind.
I am not saying that it is - but it's worth thinking about. Hope I don't offend you with this suggestion.
Here is what I said. Would you try it?
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"Hi Mr Emu. Glad to hear that this horrible thought has gone for now. But it may come back. I get similar thoughts from time to time. Here is my trick, that has never yet failed me.
First: recognize that you ARE facing a direct temptation from the devil.
Second: address the devil directly (it is the only time I ever do... I fear him far too much to address him directly, or even dwell too much on him in my thoughts). I use the words of Mark 8:33: "Get back, Satan!"
That's all. Then you find that now you can occupy your mind with some other thought."
P.S. still praying for you.
I am not saying that it is - but it's worth thinking about. Hope I don't offend you with this suggestion.
Here is what I said. Would you try it?
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"Hi Mr Emu. Glad to hear that this horrible thought has gone for now. But it may come back. I get similar thoughts from time to time. Here is my trick, that has never yet failed me.
First: recognize that you ARE facing a direct temptation from the devil.
Second: address the devil directly (it is the only time I ever do... I fear him far too much to address him directly, or even dwell too much on him in my thoughts). I use the words of Mark 8:33: "Get back, Satan!"
That's all. Then you find that now you can occupy your mind with some other thought."
P.S. still praying for you.
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Oh , yes you are totally, completely spot on...but this I cannot do on my own, and why I must once again be a beggar for your prayers...Globalnomad said:
Right now though, I also just need to grieve a bit...and feel those emotions, so that I can move through them...and once again have a brother (he hasn't been talking to me since our email exchange). Even Jesus wept, when his friend died (despite knwoing that He could raise Lazarus from the dead)...and so for right now I weep, and ask prayers that I will move on to the proper emotionsl and feelings....(that is a really messed up part of me...still in need of much healing)
Thank you all sooooo much for your prayers, I don't think you can know how much they mean to me...
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Globalnomad said:
See below...
The Church does not laicize priests just because they want to be laicized. The laicization of a priest is very, very serious and happens only because that priest has either commited a serious crime, or because he can essentially prove to Rome that he should never have been ordained in the first place because, for example, he has a very strong drinking or drug habit that he had managed to hide from his superiors during seminary and which he has no intention of giving up. Or because he was, for some reason, in some way, coerced into becoming a priest to begin with, or something that indicates to the Church that his ordination was a genuine mistake. The priest who wants to be laicized simply because he does not want to be a priest any more will not be granted his request. Laicization doesn't work that way.
Thus, Shannon's brother remains a priest and is, therefore, inelligible for the Sacrament of Marriage and will, therefore, be living in serious sin until such time as he decides to part with this woman to whom he wishes to be married.
Does this maybe help explain to some on the thread why Shannon is so upset (and why the rest of us should be concerned and praying)?
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Thanks, Greg. I still don't understand it - but I don't think this is the right time or thread to ask all the questions that your post raised in my mind.King of the Nations said:
As you say, right now let's just pray and hug.
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Shannon, my prayers are with you & and your family! Maybe your brother will rethink this, and with much prayer will realize his true vocation.
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Ya know, just a few days ago I ran across a Saint for the religious priests who struggled.
Now I thot at that time to keep it...but I didnt.
Go figure, I ignore my feelings and find regret each time.
Ok, I will go seek that Saint out and will post it, IF I can find it.
And for extra measures....Shannon, pray to St Pio.
Now I thot at that time to keep it...but I didnt.
Go figure, I ignore my feelings and find regret each time.Ok, I will go seek that Saint out and will post it, IF I can find it.
And for extra measures....Shannon, pray to St Pio.
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