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Sir Robbins

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My grandfather whom is 90 is in the hospital and dying. He checked in last Tuesday with pneumonia and I drove to Atlanta from Orlando to see him. They found a blood infection (staph) 3 days ago and although he has cleared both, his heart is too weak to produce enough oxygen for him to maintain himself. As of this morning, even being on oxygen is not enough now. He has congestive heart failure. His wish is to be taken off oxygen and be let go. My mother is a mess. We came back from Atlanta yesterday. Long drive. Now, it seems I'll be going back up tomorrow (flying this time).

Here is the bigger problem.
His beliefs are rather based on realism as opposed to being faith based. He does not believe much of what is in the bible because he reads it as a realist (does not believe Jonah and the whale, the burning bush, God coming down in a cloud, burning of Sodom, etc.) He believes religion is to live a good life (never explained to me what he means by that). He does not have a relationship with God to my knowledge but believes in Him. He believes Heaven is floating on a cloud. He does not believe many things God teaches us and everything he does, he does it for his own glory and not that of God's. It scares the family and is the one thing keeping us up at night. Talking to him results in constant push backs.
 

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God isn't border protection and your grandfather isn't attempting to travel without a VISA. God doesn't work in linear ways, and I honestly do believe in a subconscious awareness of God, which kind of pertains to the "living a good life" philosophy.

A terrorist would have reason to be nervous. They chose death on virtually every level. But a person who chose life (by which I mean, not taking others and generally being nice) subconsciously embraced Jesus - this again, is non linear. There's languages and frequencies beyond human comprehension that are always at work, and no one really knows what somebody is REALLY thinking and believing.

Just my thoughts. I'm not necessarily saying I'm right. I just don't think ultimatums are God's style.

 
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God isn't border protection and your grandfather isn't attempting to travel without a VISA. God doesn't work in linear ways, and I honestly do believe in a subconscious awareness of God, which kind of pertains to the "living a good life" philosophy.

A terrorist would have reason to be nervous. They chose death on virtually every level. But a person who chose life (by which I mean, not taking others and generally being nice) subconsciously embraced Jesus - this again, is non linear. There's languages and frequencies beyond human comprehension that are always at work, and no one really knows what somebody is REALLY thinking and believing.

Just my thoughts. I'm not necessarily saying I'm right. I just don't think ultimatums are God's style.

People can buy into this extensionalism nonsense if they want to, but The Bible is clear..Those who have the Son have life. Those who do not have the Son; have not life. Praying for God's peace and joy to this family in the midst of this loved one who is rejecting Jesus. That's all.
 
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Praying for your grandfather and your family. Only God sees our hearts, including your grandfather, and only God judges. Certainly pray for him but it is between him and God, no matter what he says that you and your family take positively or negatively will ever tell you what his real status with God is because only God will see and know his heart. Take comfort in the Lord.
 
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