Prayer never hurts

[SUNSTONE]

Ok, that makes since.

So what I did say fits, but it is going to take some time to sink in.

 

[BigToe]

what do you mean it fits and will take time to sink in... i dont get what needs to sink in

 

[SUNSTONE]

A smell triggers your thoughts to remind you of being raped. Your body doesn't know the difference, it just responds to what you are thinking.
So it freaks out.

I told you what I did when that comes on me, I prayed in the spirit (tongues) and the feeling leaves very quickly.

I will give another experience.
I just learned about healings, and was doing them with success. A very exciting time in my life. Well a coworkers daughters, best friend got struck by a truck.
She was hurt bad, in fact, the nurses said she was the worst case they had at the time. She was in a coma, her brain was constantly swelling, and they had her whole body in a nearly frozen sleeping bag(not sure how to describe it).

Well the coworker told me about it, and she was healed of a back problem. So she asked if I would pray for her. I was excited, and said sure.

So we go down there and I believe it was that day that the doctor told the mother, that she had 24 hours to live. She wasn't going to make it.

I was all pumped up going in there, but when I got in there, it was a different story.
I saw all the sick people, and all the machines, and this triggered my mind to start to doubt.
I saw her and she was on life support.

So all of this doubt came on me, and I froze. I didn't know what to do. I think I started to pray for her, but it didn't feel right, so I started to pray in the spirit.
I really didn't know what praying in the spirit was for, but that day, God showed me.

Praying in the spirit took my mind off of the problem. It cleared my mind of negotive stuff, and soon I would think of something to say, like pray for her broken leg, then back to the spirit, then something else would come to mind, and I would speak that.

I ended up praying for a few hours for her in a couple of days. With in one week, she came out of the coma. With in two months she left the hospitol.
It was a story in the newspaper. I have a copy of it, but it didn't mention anything about prayer.

Bottom line, when you get those panic attacks, or any problem for that matter. Praying in the spirit is the best thing. Praying with words, is good, but no where near as effect.Alot of times your thoughts and emotions hender your prayers from being effective.That is what Paul meant when he said, pray with the spirit and pray with the mind.

 

[BigToe]

well i dont have the gift of tongues at this juncture in my life so then i guess that leaves me outta luck

and it isnt that i think about what happened and then the smell comes. the smell comes randomly. when what happened is the furthest from my mind. the worst was when i was in my college church group. i know it is satan trying to distract me from my healing that God is doing. and when i do get the smell i force myself to think about other things. i do not sit there and think about what happened then. but until i can get rid of the smell, no matter what i am thinking or talking about, my body cramps up and breathing becomes difficult and i get claustrophobic and all that fun stuff. when i smell the smell i meditate on the good things God has given me, i pray, i sing worship songs, i read the bible, i focus on him.

so maybe what you are thinking i experience is incorrect. and i think there is a difference in what your experiences are and mine. mine stem from my post traumatic stress disorder/depression. it isnt from thinking of something or seeing something then i experience doubt. i do not doubt God during this at all and I know he will help get me out of the panic attack when i do have one. but a panic attack and doubt or questioning are two entirely different things...

perhaps i am simply not understanding what you are trying to say though. and if thats the case, i am sorry and i do want to understand.

 

[Mr.Cheese]

*hugs Erin*

 

[SUNSTONE]

well i dont have the gift of tongues at this juncture in my life so then i guess that leaves me outta luck

and it isnt that i think about what happened and then the smell comes. the smell comes randomly. when what happened is the furthest from my mind. the worst was when i was in my college church group. i know it is satan trying to distract me from my healing that God is doing. and when i do get the smell i force myself to think about other things. i do not sit there and think about what happened then. but until i can get rid of the smell, no matter what i am thinking or talking about, my body cramps up and breathing becomes difficult and i get claustrophobic and all that fun stuff. when i smell the smell i meditate on the good things God has given me, i pray, i sing worship songs, i read the bible, i focus on him.

so maybe what you are thinking i experience is incorrect. and i think there is a difference in what your experiences are and mine. mine stem from my post traumatic stress disorder/depression. it isnt from thinking of something or seeing something then i experience doubt. i do not doubt God during this at all and I know he will help get me out of the panic attack when i do have one. but a panic attack and doubt or questioning are two entirely different things...

perhaps i am simply not understanding what you are trying to say though. and if thats the case, i am sorry and i do want to understand.

What I said was that the smell comes first, that in return re"minds" you of the past. This sends a message to your body "ok freak out time".

But you even said yourself, that when these attacks come on, you "force" yourself to think of something else, or you worship, or read the bible. So you realize that wether or not it starts in your thoughts, it is your thoughts that is going to help fix the problem. The bible says the battle is in the mind.

Now the gift of tongues, and praying in the spirit are two different things.
The difference between forcing yourself to think of something else, because that smell does remind you of that day, and praying in the spirit is this.You really don't know what to say at times, and that is where the spirit steps in and helps.

My hospitol example was to show where I learned what tongues is for. I did have a panic attack, brung on by my thoughts. I gave that example with the Bruce Lee, kicked in the back thing.

Here is another example. My pastor was driving down the road when he saw a bill board of a pretty half naked lady. Well he turned his head and prayed in the spirit. The way he said it, was funny. But the truth is, praying in the spirit will curve those thoughts, those feelings, and those doubts.

The flesh is weak, but the spirit is willing. (somewhere in the bible, I am to lazy to go find it. )

 

[GREG]

Erin, you are always in my prayers........

 

[BigToe]

i still dont get it.

thanks greg and cheese for the prayers and hugs. i appreciate it.

so i've noticed that with all joking aside i really am scared of boys and relationships and things like that right now. i am afraid to share who i am with boys in fear that they will take it and break my heart some how. this is unsettling for me because i generally share openly with almost anyone. but now i have noticed that i share more of myself with a complete stranger than with a boy i have been friends with for a long time. its just weird...

 

[SUNSTONE]

i still dont get it.

thanks greg and cheese for the prayers and hugs. i appreciate it.

so i've noticed that with all joking aside i really am scared of boys and relationships and things like that right now. i am afraid to share who i am with boys in fear that they will take it and break my heart some how. this is unsettling for me because i generally share openly with almost anyone. but now i have noticed that i share more of myself with a complete stranger than with a boy i have been friends with for a long time. its just weird...

Who are you talking about? Me? or are you just talking in general?

 

[BigToe]

the i still dont get it was directed towards you sunstone.

the thanks for prayer was to greg, the hugs appreciation to cheesy

and the boy comment was just in general

 

[wvmtnkid]

i still dont get it.

so i've noticed that with all joking aside i really am scared of boys and relationships and things like that right now. i am afraid to share who i am with boys in fear that they will take it and break my heart some how. this is unsettling for me because i generally share openly with almost anyone. but now i have noticed that i share more of myself with a complete stranger than with a boy i have been friends with for a long time. its just weird...

Erin-

I think this is a fairly normal set of emotions considering what you have gone through. And really, it wasn't that long ago that this happened to you. People heal differently and at different rates, so don't push yourself or beat yourself up over it. Healing will come, in it's due time. I think that it is a good thing that you can talk about the rape and get some of your emotions out. It's better than keeping everything inside and allowing it to just be bottled up. I just hope that someday soon, you won't have those troubling thoughts or emotions that bother you so much. I think you are on the right track.

 

[BigToe]

thanks, i appreciate the sentiment. i just wish i could i could forget it happened and move on. eh guess i am too impatient.