Post new Prog subforum intentions

[NightEternal]

Reading over some of the comments by some Trads here, I am gathering they are under the impression that things will be a certain way after the new Prog forum is set up on WWMC. I have read such things as "I am going to miss you after you're gone" and such.

Perhaps some of the Progs better set the record straight as far as what thier post new subforum activities will be, because obviously some Trads seem to think that we are going to be cleaned out and gone for good. If the bubble is going to be burst, it might as well be now.

Speaking for myself, I am probably one of the few that will be gone for good and I have no intentions of ever coming back on a full-time basis. If I come here at all it will be very, very minimal, seldom next to none. I may be the only one who intends to stay away however.

RC has clearly stated he will be remaining here even after our new area goes up:

By the way the new forum does not mean we won't be at the discussion forum here. Hate to disappoint you.

http://christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=45674051&postcount=67

I do not know about the intentions of the rest of the Progs however, but I am guessing they will be staying around here as well, although probably not as much.

As for the Formers, sorry Trads. This new set-up is not going to rid you of them at all. Tall has already made it clear he is not going anywhere:

B. I am not a progressive Adventist, so it wouldn't be my forum. I will likely still be here in the debate area where I can debate Adventist issues.

http://christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=45701637&postcount=4

So, the Trads probably shouldn't rejoice too loudly.

http://christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=45694016&postcount=1

The change around here will be minimal it looks like.

 

[RC_NewProtestants]

Maybe Tall wrote what he did before he knew what the title and objective of the new forum would be. Because it certainly could be his forum with the title Progressive/Moderate and Former Adventist Forum.

by putting the Former's in there we open it up to becoming a larger forum then the SDA forum. And frankly we have a lot in common with the Former Adventists as many of the things that caused them to leave are things we have severe concerns about.

 

[Sophia7]

I would definitely participate in the new forum or sub-forum, and I appreciate the fact that you want to open it up to formers as well.

Also, see my post here if you haven't already. We have official word that you can have your own separate forum (rather than a sub-forum in WWMC) if you want one.

 

[tall73]

Also, see my post here if you haven't already. We have official word that you can have your own separate forum (rather than a sub-forum in WWMC) if you want one.

That sounds like an attractive option for you all.

 

[NightEternal]

You've been saying you're leaving just about every month for the past year night, why should we believe you this time?

What the blue blazes are you going on about?! I don't know where you got that from, because it surely is not anything close to reality. I have done no such thing. I left the forum ONCE for a few months. ONCE.

Lately is the first time I have been talking about leaving again, and only because we now have a place to go which we did not before.

Furthermore, you have not even been posting on these boards for a year, so how would you know to begin with?

And yes, I WILL be leaving once we get this new subforum set up, an option which was never a reality before.

Do you consider yourself any type of an Adventist then?

I am a baptized member of the church. I am an EVANGELICAL Adventist. Not that I have to justify myself to you.

Of course, if you had actually been around this place for a year like you claim, you would already know this.

Because unfortunately from the things I've seen you post I haven't been able to classify you as any type of an Adventist at all actually.

Show me these posts. Back up your false charges with some evidence.

I could care less what YOU consider to be a true Adventist. You speak for NO ONE but yourself.

The posts I've seen you make concerning Adventism, however seem to be centered around the anti-trad and pro Ecumenical-Adventism themes so I'm not really sure where that puts you on these boards besides Prog.

And where have I ever claimed to be anything but affiliated with the Progressive camp?

Yes, I am anti-Trad and have been for over 20 years. Quite proud of it actually. The future of the church is not to be found amongst the historic traditionals. That type of Adventism has nothing to offer but stagnation and eventual dying out from irrelevancy.

 

[honorthesabbath]

Night--it wasn't I who first brought out the rejoicing theme. All I did was to bring DeanM's words to the attention of the Adventist's of this forum.

But I cannot for the life of me understand why any of you who are non-traditional, would even dream of wanting to come back to this toxic, poisonous, hateful, judgmental, intolerant, narrow-minded, closed-minded, weak-mined EGW loving forum, when all we have heard from months is how you all hate it here and wanted your own place. Now hearing you say that you all are really not leaving seems to place your previous rantings in a disingenuous light.

So I guess my question would be, what exactly do you want?

 

[DeanM]

Hi folks,

Just a gentle reminder from your mod staff that dicussing the new Progressive forum/subforum may not cross the line into celebration outside of the progressive area.

Please read this post for clarification:

http://christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=45659218&postcount=17

I am posting this as a reminder. Let's please be careful!

Carry on~

 

[TrustAndObey]

1. Are Trads invited to the party in the Progressive area?

2. Since this is a post-new forum discussion, I'd like to ask, are there any plans of talking about particular Trad posters when they move to their own forum?

3. Are there any plans to pull threads or posts made by Traditional Adventists into the new forum?

 

[honorthesabbath]

DeanM, excuse me, but this thread isn't doing what you said in this post..http://christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=45659218&postcount=17

You clearly said that the celebrating should not be taken into the TRADITIONAL SUB_FORUM. This discussion is taking place in the D&D forum. Right where it is suppose to be for DEBATING and DISCUSSING.

 

[NightEternal]

Night--it wasn't I who first brought out the rejoicing theme. All I did was to bring DeanM's words to the attention of the Adventist's of this forum.

Be that as it may, you WILL be rejoicing with glee, I don't think that is under question.

But I cannot for the life of me understand why any of you who are non-traditional, would even dream of wanting to come back to this toxic, poisonous, hateful, judgmental, intolerant, narrow-minded, closed-minded, weak-mined EGW loving forum,

More like a nightmare than a dream.

I don't want to and never have. And I won't be either. My policy for this place will be the same as it has been for me with the Trad area here. Unless something being said directly about me needs clarification, you will never see me in here.

As for the others, take it up with them. Thier disdain for some elements here obviously does not reach the intensity of my own and they probably have not had as as much of a negative experience here as I have.

when all we have heard from months is how you all hate it here and wanted your own place. Now hearing you say that you all are really not leaving seems to place your previous rantings in a disingenuous light.

First of all, that desription you gave was of ME as I have been one of the most vocal about splitting/having a new area. None of the other Progs have been saying the things I have, at least not as forcefully, so if they want to leave thier options open to being here once and a while, I don't see it as 'disingenuous'.

So I guess my question would be, what exactly do you want?

What I want is now in the process of happening. As for the others, I can't speak for them.

 

[NightEternal]

1. Are Trads invited to the party in the Progressive area?

I have no intentions of 'in your face Trads' partying. I don't see it as necessary as you guys are gaining and benefitting from this just as much as we are.

All I feel right now is relief at finally having seen some fruit come from an almost year-long battle to get our own area.

2. Since this is a post-new forum discussion, I'd like to ask, are there any plans of talking about particular Trad posters when they move to their own forum?

The idea holds no appeal for me. Will you guys hold to the same standard? I hope so. Because when I was banned for a month, there was a WHOLE LOT of this nonsense going on in my absence. Maybe the words "we all know WHO the troublemaker was in this forum" and "isn't it PEACEFUL now that he is gone" ring a bell for some? Rest assured, if I see any of that happening, and cheap shots are being taken on my person, I will be back to defend myself.

3. Are there any plans to pull threads or posts made by Traditional Adventists into the new forum?

All I am concerned about are my own posts. That's it.

 

[honorthesabbath]

Be that as it may, you WILL be rejoicing with glee, I don't think that is under question.

I would be dishonest if I said otherwise. It would be like the relief one feels after the dentist is done drilling.

More like a nightmare than a dream.

Yeah, the nightmare we have endured for so long.

I don't want to and never have. And I won't be either. My policy for this place will be the same as it has been for me with the Trad area here. Unless something being said directly about me needs clarification, you will never see me in here.

But why come looking for trouble then?

As for the others, take it up with them. Thier disdain for some elements here obviously does not reach the intensity of my own and they probably have not had as as much of a negative experience here as I have.

You reap what you sow.

First of all, that desription you gave was of ME as I have been one of the most vocal about splitting/having a new area. None of the other Progs have been saying the things I have, at least not as forcefully, so if they want to leave thier options open to being here once and a while, I don't see it as 'disingenuous'.

Well I certainly do, because those names I listed have been uttered by most of them.

What I want is now in the process of happening. As for the others, I can't speak for them.

No need to, then have said enough.