Post-Christian Christianity

[JM]

"When the surrounding culture changes, one approach that has been taken by many churches over the centuries is to capitulate to the new thought-forms and change the message of Christ to suit the world. This was true of nineteenth-century liberalism, and it is true in many churches today. In this session, Dr. R.C. Sproul explains the dangers of following the ever-shifting tides of contemporary culture and call the church to walk in the ancient paths."


Message 9, Post-Christian Christianity from Overcoming the World: 2014 West Coast Conference Conference by Various Teachers from Ligonier Ministries

 

[drjean]

I enjoy Sproul immensely, though from time to time I'm not in agreement.

I'm listening to the message as I post...

God said that in the end times good will be called evil, and evil will be called good. Woe to them! Isaiah 5:20

Proverbs 16:25 – There is a way that seems right to a man, but in the end it leads to death.

This is easily evidenced in the American Politics forum here, where many insist on having a world view that is not a Christian world view, and say that they're right and we, who stick to God's principles, are wrong. (Of course much distortion of God's Word entails since secular--and gasp even Christians--often misuse/take it out of context.)

But even recent societal norms changed when calling something "bad" meant it was really good.


Now I have heard it...excellent again!

I'm considering putting this as a siggie:

It matters not how intelligent one is nor learned in philosophies such as Marxism, Humanism, Logical Positivism, Existentialism, Relativism, Pluralism, Secularism…all different isms that have their distinctive characteristics that differentiate one of them from the rest but they all have one thing in common: skepticism with respect to the supernatural and to God…and so all of them share a common premise of phenomenology that it was manifest and ultimately in materialistic naturalism…. the point was…if you take God out of the equation there is no way to come to ultimate reality. You must be satisfied with the here and now, you can still speak of having truths but no truth…purposes but no purpose…existences but no essence…humans but no humanity… and so it goes and so what emerged is a form of relativism which in every period of skepticism in the history of theoretical thought in West skepticism has led to relativism and it’s twin sister pluralism. R C Sproul World Conference Overcoming the World message 9.

 

[cubanito]

Interesting how concretely true the calling of good evil and vice versa is. I have trouble with kid's conversations sometimes. Calling sometheing "wicked" or a shorter word for "the excrement" is the highest of compliments.

Abortion is one area that language redirection is especially active, proponents have long been called "pro-choice" as if the fetus had any choice (the mother always has adoption as a choice). Now infanticide is being called "after-birth abortion" in scholarly journals)

"The prestigious Journal of Medical Ethics has just given us a sneak-peek into what ObamaCare will surely be mandating in the not-too-distant future.

The Journal published an article this month seeking to mainstream the view that infanticide is a health-improving measure. Calling it “after-birth abortion,” two philosophers argue that killing a newborn should be a purely elective decision of parents who believe the baby would be a burden or would negatively impact their family’s well being."

I realize the following is something of a cheap shot and rather jingoistic, but as I see the continuing regression of my USA culture, I find my pre-millenial eschatology more vivid. I know, I know, there are good cou8nter arguments to this, but man, working at the corner of Sodom and Gomorrah (1055 Washington avenue, South Miami Beach 33139) I see some serious anti-Christian attitudes.

JR

There are so many words that have been redefined as the oposite or nearly so of their original meaning it spins my head. For example, I've ranted on and on about how "post-modernism" is actually the mathematical discovery that Absolute Truth can never be known APART FROM it being revealed by an Eternal Being.