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Possible role of Man in the garden

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super slug said:
Could be an analogy for our stewardship of the earth, to look after it and guard it from our tendency to mess it up whenever we use its fruits.

But the idea that we need to actively defend what is right and good and sometimes use force to do that, hangs ok with me.
Well, I didn't quite have an intention for this question to have any implications for the use of force on this Earth, but I don't necessarily disagree with you, either. I suppose curiosity might be at heart here, but understanding our role in the garden might help us understand the fall, and thus there might be a bit more insight given to salvation.

If man was the keeper of the garden, and thus was responsible for it, the guard of it, that would give us further understanding of the serpant's motivation for tempting him. Perhaps he wasn't motivated by mere malice, or the fact that we were constructed in God's image, but ambition.
 
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Here's an theory...

God told Adam to work the garden of God and to guard the garden, but Adam was slack about the guarding and Satan got in. Then Satan was able to tempt Eve and the rest is history.

Just think what would have happened if Adam had not been clueless about the command to guard the garden and prevented Satan from coming in the garden...

After all, Adam had the authority to keep Satan from the Garden, even out of the world. If Adam would have exercised that authority, then the angels of God would have enforced it.

As it was, God did eventually place an angel to guard the garden, something Adam failed to do...

Do you want me to continue?

Blessings...
 
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look said:
Here's an theory...

God told Adam to work the garden of God and to guard the garden, but Adam was slack about the guarding and Satan got in. Then Satan was able to tempt Eve and the rest is history.

Just think what would have happened if Adam had not been clueless about the command to guard the garden and prevented Satan from coming in the garden...

After all, Adam had the authority to keep Satan from the Garden, even out of the world. If Adam would have exercised that authority, then the angels of God would have enforced it.

As it was, God did eventually place an angel to guard the garden, something Adam failed to do...

Do you want me to continue?

Blessings...
Hey, look...we're seeing a lot of each other lately ;)
I've heard this theory from other folks, and one like it which says that it was Adam's responsibility to teach the woman, and if he taught the woman correctly, she wouldn't have taken the fruit. I suppose there are some arguments to be made for these hypotheses, but I personally believe them to be mere scapegoats, trying to point fingers at the man as being the cause for the woman's fall, much like assertions for the vice versa which have been made beforehand.
There was no "Eve" before the fall. Adam named his wife "Eve" after the fall. Before the fall, they were both Adam. There was man, and woman. They both answered to the name "Man," and at times, the Scripture refers to them as "Adam and his wife." True, I aspire to the "Adam was there. He should have said something!" theory. But woman fell by her own folly, not the folly of her husband. Man fell by his own folly, not the folly of his wife. If either one of them was where they needed to be, perhaps the other would have survived, but they weren't.

The woman allowed herself to be deceived, by letting the Serpant tamper with the word of God. If she was ignorant of the word of God, why did she quote the word of God so perfectly in Gen 3:2-3? She knew the word of God. She was deceived because she listened to the serpant's pollution of it. I think Adam should have stepped in the moment the serpant began to pass his rubbish in verse 4, but this does not mean that he is responsible for woman's fall. If he was, why was the woman punished alongside him? If her fall was not due to her own fault, her own aspiration to a form of godliness, why was she punished as well as her husband? Will women see Ghenna because of their husbands' sins, or because of their own?

The serpant attacked man on the woman's flank, but this does not mean that man's fall can be attributed to woman's sin, no more than woman's fall can be attributed to man's sin. If the sins were entertwined--and I tend to think that they were--mutual blame is to be allocated to all parties. None of them had to follow the other. God dealt with man, woman, and serpant all at one time. All three had sinned.
 
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look said:
Here's an theory...
God told Adam to work the garden of God and to guard the garden, but Adam was slack about the guarding and Satan got in. Then Satan was able to tempt Eve and the rest is history.
Interesting theory, but where does it say Satan snuck into the garden?

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