Pornographic artist...

[TruthSeekerNSF]

I'm working on erotic comics and illustrations for a living. I have no other idea to get onto the road of being a comic artist, but the porn market is an easy market for me to survive in this direction. I'm now having parters and some firm fans in our circle. I do plan that I will work only in mainstream of comics making in the future, but I'm not able to be competent to it by now. I believe in Christian, so I'm entangled very much whether it's a deed sending me to hell?

 

[Ana the Ist]

I don't know about hell...but I would avoid phrases like "firm fans" in the future.

 

[Manic Spinoza]

Describe pornographic to you. I don't think nude drawing are pornographic in any way. The human form is nothing to be ashamed about.

 

[Jonathan Jarvis]

That's the problem with living in a capitalist economy. We have to pay others for our food and shelter, unlike the rest of the creatures on this planet.

To do so, we must do things sometimes against our better nature to get the money to pay.

It sounds that you are uncomfortable with the line of work you are doing. This awareness is the first step on your path to move onto a more fulfilling enterprise.

 

[TruthSeekerNSF]

I don't know about hell...but I would avoid phrases like "firm fans" in the future.

Errr, how about loyal fans? I think "big fans" is the most flawless one in this case, isn't it?

Describe pornographic to you. I don't think nude drawing are pornographic in any way. The human form is nothing to be ashamed about.

My works include contents of miscellaneous fetishes to female body mainly. For example, giantess fetish, foot fetish, sweat fetish,saliva fetish, and crap, urine, farting etc. Other than those are some normal sexual parts and activities. Basically no brutally torment to human body. If there is violence appearing, it would be warlike violence or sports-like competition. Are these acceptable too within christian endurance?

Jonathan Jarvis: I agree with you so much! People can't be 100% identical to Jesus. And when we die, we can't redeem other people's sins, nor ourselves'...
So we'd better live well firstly, and then try the best to study Jesus' teaching and accept his salvation.

 

[Gadarene]

Eh, IMO it's more of a moral calling than using your talent to create utterly awful tracts like Jack Chick.

 

[Optimus Fortis]

You might want to study the Greek word for 'porn'.

Porni to the Greeks was not only a prostitute but the lowest form of one, a 'crack harlot' if you will. So a pornographer is like a 'crack harlot' with a pen (or in these days a camera). In essence, the pornographer, like a harlot preys on natural passions but through the pen for coin.

I'm not insulting you by the way but just explaining the Christian position which is partly derived from classical Greece.

The disdain for the usurer was for exactly the same reasons as the disdain for the money lender: they prey on the productivity of others without producing anything themselves. Christians have lost this reason and have resorted to prudishness to defend themselves from the onslaught of crasser and crasser porn. Unfortunately prudishness leads to a Madonna v harlot complex.

Sooner or later the usurer and the pornographer will triumph over capitalist societies: His profit is easy, no work, no risk but the insatiable desire of humans is his abundant field.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Errr, how about loyal fans? I think "big fans" is the most flawless one in this case, isn't it?




My works include contents of miscellaneous fetishes to female body mainly. For example, giantess fetish, foot fetish, sweat fetish,saliva fetish, and crap, urine, farting etc. Other than those are some normal sexual parts and activities. Basically no brutally torment to human body. If there is violence appearing, it would be warlike violence or sports-like competition. Are these acceptable too within christian endurance?

Jonathan Jarvis: I agree with you so much! People can't be 100% identical to Jesus. And when we die, we can't redeem other people's sins, nor ourselves'...
So we'd better live well firstly, and then try the best to study Jesus' teaching and accept his salvation.

Lol loyal fans works just fine. Unfortunately, in your line of work "firm fans" brings to mind some images I'd rather not have.

 

[Gadarene]

TruthSeekerNSFW moar liek

 

[Nithavela]

My works include contents of miscellaneous fetishes to female body mainly. For example, giantess fetish, foot fetish, sweat fetish,saliva fetish, and crap, urine, farting etc. Other than those are some normal sexual parts and activities. Basically no brutally torment to human body. If there is violence appearing, it would be warlike violence or sports-like competition. Are these acceptable too within christian endurance?

Jonathan Jarvis: I agree with you so much! People can't be 100% identical to Jesus. And when we die, we can't redeem other people's sins, nor ourselves'...
So we'd better live well firstly, and then try the best to study Jesus' teaching and accept his salvation.

You're not hurting anyone with your comics. You're not even exploiting women like the porn industry sometime (okay, often) does. I can see no moral problem, so I'm sure that by christian standards, this is horrible.

Also, if they were such avid readers of his works, they wouldn't be firm.

 

[Paradoxum]

If your work doesn't harm anyone, why would it be immoral?

I don't know about hell...but I would avoid phrases like "firm fans" in the future.

Ha, that made me laugh.

 

[Paradoxum]

You might want to study the Greek word for 'porn'.

Etymological fallacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Possibly)

Porni to the Greeks was not only a prostitute but the lowest form of one, a 'crack harlot' if you will. So a pornographer is like a 'crack harlot' with a pen (or in these days a camera). In essence, the pornographer, like a harlot preys on natural passions but through the pen for coin.

If they don't take crack, is it okay? Why is it wrong to be a sex worker?

Is it wrong to be a chef, because they prey on natural passions too?

The disdain for the usurer was for exactly the same reasons as the disdain for the money lender: they prey on the productivity of others without producing anything themselves.

Like priests? (And other jobs we think are okay)

Christians have lost this reason and have resorted to prudishness to defend themselves from the onslaught of crasser and crasser porn. Unfortunately prudishness leads to a Madonna v harlot complex.

You're against porn because it doesn't produce anything? I don't get it. Erotic books and porn are a thing you create. They exist as much as any other book or film.

Sooner or later the usurer and the pornographer will triumph over capitalist societies: His profit is easy, no work, no risk but the insatiable desire of humans is his abundant field.

What does it mean for the pornographer to triumph over society?

 

[Inkachu]

I'm working on erotic comics and illustrations for a living. I have no other idea to get onto the road of being a comic artist, but the porn market is an easy market for me to survive in this direction. I'm now having parters and some firm fans in our circle. I do plan that I will work only in mainstream of comics making in the future, but I'm not able to be competent to it by now. I believe in Christian, so I'm entangled very much whether it's a deed sending me to hell?

Yes, it is wrong.

If you can convincingly draw erotic comics, you can draw non-erotic comics. I don't believe the argument that you're not competent enough.

 

[DiligentlySeekingGod]

OP, if you are sincerely seeking Godly advice then you should have posted your question in a Christian only forum, such as Christian Advice or you could ask one of the site Chaplains that are available here at Ask a Chaplain. Because the truth is, non-believers will not give you Godly advice, based solely upon Scripture. More likely than not, they will only give you excuses for justifying your choice of employment, which will be based upon their own secular worldview, and that of course will not be Godly and pleasing to the Lord. However, as a Christian, I want to ask you these three questions: (1) Have you spoken to your Pastor about your choice of employment? (2) Do any of your drawings glorify God and bring honor to His name? And (3) Do you think you would draw such images in the middle of a Church service and then show them to rest of the congregation after the service was over? Scripture tells us that whatever we say and do, we are to do in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him (Colossians 3:17). That is what we are to do as followers of the Lord Jesus Christ.

 

[FireDragon76]

If your work doesn't harm anyone, why would it be immoral?

Because people will have to account for their life one day, and there are better ways to spend it than feeding lustful passions.

I'm a liberal Christian but most of us would still find pornography and prostitution to still be problematic. The idea that prostitution is harmless is just not true, the whole prostitution and porn industry is riddled with exploitation.

I'd look for another job if possible. There are dirty jobs, then there are degrading jobs.

 

[DogmaHunter]

That's the problem with living in a capitalist economy. We have to pay others for our food and shelter, unlike the rest of the creatures on this planet.

Errr... would you prefer to go on fights to the death every day in your struggle for survival, like the rest of the creatures on this planet?

Instead of a "problem", I'ld rather call it something to be thankfull for.

To do so, we must do things sometimes against our better nature to get the money to pay.

Not really. Nobody is stopping the guy from quiting his job and go flip burgers at McDonalds, stack boxes in some storage house, be a salesman in a clothes shop, be a waiter at a bar, do the dishes in a restaurant, ... There's plenty of jobs for which no formal education is required. He could do any of those starting tomorrow without any kind of additional education.

Next to that, he could also enroll in a few courses and actually engage in a carreer switch.

It's completely false to suggest that people are restricted to just one kind of job. It's a free country and nobody stops you from doing what you want to do.
Nore does anyone force you to do a job that you don't want to do.

 

[DogmaHunter]

I'm a liberal Christian but most of us would still find pornography and prostitution to still be problematic. The idea that prostitution is harmless is just not true, the whole prostitution and porn industry is riddled with exploitation.

So is a big part of any industry. Have you visited some of the chinese factories recently where Nike shoes etc are made? Talk about exploitation.

Looking at the situation from your own moral superiority complex will not give you the correct answers.

The fact is that porn and prostitution also serve as an outlet for plenty of people who actually would go out and do quite despicable things if it wasn't for the porn and prostitution they can use as a substitute. Just because you don't understand how such minds work doesn't mean they don't exist.

Next to that, it really doesn't matter what you think. In a secular country, your bible and religious convictions are quite irrelevant.

I'd look for another job if possible. There are dirty jobs, then there are degrading jobs.

Great. Good for you.
Off course, your opinion about what is "dirty" and "degrading" is as subjective as they come.

 

[Inkachu]

Gotta love how every viewpoint is tolerated, validated, and accepted... except the conservative, Christian one. Dare to say you think something is wrong or immoral, and you're lambasted and picked apart and mocked. Yet the very people doing the attacking are committing the very offense they claim to be against. If you're truly secure and confident in your stance, you won't feel so threatened or insecure that you have to lash out at someone who believes differently than you do.

 

[Gadarene]

'Egads, someone is disagreeing with me? Jeeves, my fainting-couch!!'

 

[DiligentlySeekingGod]

Gotta love how every viewpoint is tolerated, validated, and accepted... except the conservative, Christian one. Dare to say you think something is wrong or immoral, and you're lambasted and picked apart and mocked. Yet the very people doing the attacking are committing the very offense they claim to be against. If you're truly secure and confident in your stance, you won't feel so threatened or insecure that you have to lash out at someone who believes differently than you do.

QFT. Well said.