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Sunlover1 great job! If everyone would read what you wrote, and could understand it, there would only be one church. Also there would be no need for a pope. People who know God dont need any person to supervise them.Hi Trento,
This is an inaccurate statement
that's been loosly thrown around,
confusing those who are babes.
I'm not my own papa, God is.
I cant see the issue you'd have
with me submitting to God.
NO again Trento.
I don't want my own doctrine.
If that were the case my life would
be MUCHO different.
I love God and so make the choices
that are biblical, rather than shiftig
my life around to accomodate self.
I tell my kids, there are always two
options, the one you WANT to do,
adn the right one.
We HAVE the mind of Christ,
we HOLD the thoughts and purpose
of Christ in our hearts.
We have GOD almighty IN us now.
Jesus Christ came and died to give
US ACCESS to the Father.
Before Jesus came we had to have
a priest make sacrifices on our behalf.
Now, Jesus Christ IS the Lamb of God.
I don't care if it's in agreement with fellow
christians, that gate is STRAIT, that
path is NARROW.
Last thing I want is to bow to the majority.
God is always right.
Man is always fallible.
who's right? The one who actually obeys
and searches for God is the one who
will hear God.
You said I was my own pope earlier.
If my pastor is my "pope" then we are
on the same page exactly.
However, my pope is God.
Just like King David's (the man after
God's own heart) was.
No I don't choose to disregard anything.
I can't see it, cannot see anyone mentioning
that they needed to check in with Peter.
Paul even mentioned that before making
a large decision he conferred NOT with
flesh and blood (that self pope him
Not really interested in historical routines.
Not to be offensive, but is making choices,
on the basis of other men's choices a wise
choice?
Other men's choices arent our plumb line.
Surely that's a given?
ASK Him. (Seriously)
He did say we would hear His voice.
(My sheep HEAR my voice and a stranger's
voice they will not follow)
You will hear a voice behind you saying,
"THIS is the WAY, walk ye in it".
If the man is teaching what is of the Lord,
then it's of the Lord.
Certainly, they'd be in agreement or one or
both would be wrong, OR they could be in agreement and both be wrong.
And?
It's a given that men often hear wrong, so
don't listen for God?
You're presuming the hearers are listening.
Jesus made it clear that many will not HEAR.
It's not the fault of the Spirit.
If majority agreement is the rule, why
not islam or Sikhism etc?
MOST don't hear, because most have hard
hearts (according to Scripture anyhow)
Cool.
Amen, this submission of self to GOD though.
Greats do aspire to personal glory etc.
sunlover
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