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There is no language on earth that can be 100% directly and accurately translated into any other language, that is fact.
There is no language on earth that can be 100% directly and accurately translated into any other language, that is fact.
It does relate to the fact that there is no way that the bible is as it originally was in any language other than Hebrew.It doesn't change the fact that in this case the nature of the horse, being Death's mount, was not changed by the color of the beast. It could have been translated as "neon pink" and it would still have the same nature. The passage would still mean the same thing.
It doesn't change the fact that in this case the nature of the horse, being Death's mount, was not changed by the color of the beast. It could have been translated as "neon pink" and it would still have the same nature. The passage would still mean the same thing.
It does relate to the fact that there is no way that the bible is as it originally was in any language other than Hebrew.
And I never claimed you did. So, we'll chalk this one up as another red herring.I don't remember saying you were gay.
Well, only you know what's going on in your mind. But your mischaracterization of my remarks, by calling them ranting and raving, needs to be pointed out.In fact I never even gave it a thought until you started ranting and raving about it.
What did have bearing on the question, and particularly, the placement of the question? I'm just curious.Your choice of sexuality had no bearing on the question.
What if he wasn't riding a horse? What if it were a neon pink elephant with a rainbow shirt on? Then you could hate death that much more, because it may be a homosexual!
But the meaning hasn't changed. Homosexual acts are still an abomination before God. Sorry, but that's what it means no matter how directly the words were translated. Whether you agree with what it says or not at least be honest enough to acknowledge what it says.
How can you know that when there was no word for homosexual, the fact is you cannot truly know and since as others have pointed out it was written by man you cannot tell me that each individuals own prejudices did not color what they wrote.But the meaning hasn't changed. Homosexual acts are still an abomination before God. Sorry, but that's what it means no matter how directly the words were translated. Whether you agree with what it says or not at least be honest enough to acknowledge what it says.
And your point is what?
Ok, I'll conceed the point. You are correct, the Bible is in the exact perfect condition in English through divine power, or whatever else happened to make it perfect in English.
Please now answer:
This does bring up an interesting question, and since this thread involves the Pope, let me just ask you this:
I am going to assume you are not a Catholic. If that is true, then you follow sola scripture. The problem is upon who's authority does your interpretation of the scripture rest? When I was a Christian, if I read the Bible and then you did, and we had some disagreements on points, who would be correct?
If I have a verse that points to my ideas, and you have one that points to yours, who is there to settle these differences? Different churches have different takes and interpretations, so who is correct? Why are they correct and not others?
I haven't either, but I'm pretty sure it involves all the things I mentioned in my earlier post.
To any and all homosexual couples reading this -
If I'm way off and flat wrong in assuming that your relationship involves love, compassion, companionship, sex, caring, support, selflessness, sharing, doing things together, traveling together, learning from each other, helping each other, missing each other when the other is away, and a lot more than just "sex acts", please let me know.
Does anyone have an extra irony meter? Mine just blew up.
Seeing that there are a plethora of differing Christian denominations, sects and teachings, the reality of that statement is null and void.To cut the answer down to size if we were both reading the Bible and had a disagreement on certain things within we would search the scriptures until we had the right answer. It would be clear to both of us which position, if either, the Bible supports.
Have you ever heard the saying "Scripture interprets scripture"? It is a principle of hermeneuticswhich means that the passage you are looking at is evaluated
When you look at any scripture using that method there will ALWAYS be clarity of who is right and who has it wrong. You are correct I am not a catholic.
- In the sentence it appears in
- In the paragraph it appears in
- In the section it appears in
- In the book it appears in
- In other books by the same author
- In other books from that time period
- In the other books of that testament
- In the other books in the Bible
The authority of scripture rests on the scripture itself. It proves itself out. False, heretical teachings can not stand when you use that hermeneutical principle.
That's how we know that when someone says "God told me to kill..." they weren't from the God of scriptures. Because scripture time and time again forbids murder. It doesn't forbid war or capital punishment, but it forbids murder. As an example.
To cut the answer down to size if we were both reading the Bible and had a disagreement on certain things within we would search the scriptures until we had the right answer. It would be clear to both of us which position, if either, the Bible supports.
Mr. Bear - you are right on target, and doing a fabulous job!
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