Polyamory

[Reine]

@ Reine's last post: I won't say if that idea is wrong or right, but I find it to be horrible at worst and sickeningly disappointing at best.

You are a romantic at heart? What I said is very unromantic.. but it is what I tell my kids. They are in search for their perfect princes and princess. I think we have all been there. Young girls think if they can just find their prince and have his baby their life will be complete. Young boys, I think..., want sex with a girl who will take care of them like mom does, and who is beautiful and make their guy friends envious.

Is this true? It seems true to me. What advice do you give these boys, or these girls?

 

[razeontherock]

You are a romantic at heart?

Perhaps

What I said is very unromantic..

I do wonder how far it is from the Hebrew's conception of marriage during Biblical times. It just seems so ... professional. Sorry, that can paint the fairer sex in a very unflattering light.

but it is what I tell my kids. They are in search for their perfect princes and princess. I think we have all been there. Young girls think if they can just find their prince and have his baby their life will be complete. Young boys, I think..., want sex with a girl who will take care of them like mom does, and who is beautiful and make their guy friends envious.

Is this true? It seems true to me. What advice do you give these boys, or these girls?

Recently my Mom reminded me by 3rd grade I insisted on walking home for lunch to make it myself, because carrying sandwiches from home everything got all soggy I had forgotten that. I never suffered from the Mama's boy syndrome, but you're right, our society paints unhealthy images and as parents we are put in a tough position. Personally, I don't believe in promoting lies like Santa Claus or the Easter bunny either.

What advice to give indeed! Always a tough question, but it's really hard to go wrong with the approach of finding out what God wants for a person. It's nice where we have things that are universally applicable, but Proverbs 31 only takes one so far ... I do wish my parents had instilled in me the values of what God says makes for a good woman! (No, I probably wouldn't have listened anyway, but they still could have told me

 

[Reine]

Perhaps



I do wonder how far it is from the Hebrew's conception of marriage during Biblical times. It just seems so ... professional. Sorry, that can paint the fairer sex in a very unflattering light.



Recently my Mom reminded me by 3rd grade I insisted on walking home for lunch to make it myself, because carrying sandwiches from home everything got all soggy I had forgotten that. I never suffered from the Mama's boy syndrome, but you're right, our society paints unhealthy images and as parents we are put in a tough position. Personally, I don't believe in promoting lies like Santa Claus or the Easter bunny either.

What advice to give indeed! Always a tough question, but it's really hard to go wrong with the approach of finding out what God wants for a person. It's nice where we have things that are universally applicable, but Proverbs 31 only takes one so far ... I do wish my parents had instilled in me the values of what God says makes for a good woman! (No, I probably wouldn't have listened anyway, but they still could have told me

Lol, well good for you for not being tied to the apron string. My brother once called his wife while she was at work because he cut his finger and couldn't find the bandaides He is 6 2" and is a deer hunter and rides a harley . When you are independent, you have a more likely chance of being with your mate because you want to, not because you need to. I tell my daughters that young girls are all on a mad dash to find their prince, ... but what they don't know is that Robin Hood was not climbing tower walls and swinging from vines becuase he really loved Maid Marrion so much, but because it was fun and it looked cool.

I have had my own business for many years, so I guess my thinking has gotten some what objective, even in persoanl affairs. I look at things both ways. I know all the passionate feelings that go along with being in love,... but a job is nice too I tell my girls not to put themselves in a position where they will have to look for a guy with that top dollar job, they should get skilled at something. I also tell them that getting the I do at the alter before sex is like an insurance policy. It's too bad that we have to hold things like that over the heads of others, but, in this world people who treat other people right, usually wind up with people who treat other people wrong.

The proverbs woman considers a field and buys it, which indicates she workes and plans for investing. She has a brain and doesn't only depend on her husband. But, they have formed a team and should pay attention to that agreement, for to rip it apart halfway through is self defeating. I don't really see how anyone can build a life having multiple partners as the OP is suggesting, unless they don't want a family and the somehow became independently wealthy... and just live going about on vacations and having fun. There is no commitment to make anything with meaning with anyone else. I don't care for a life like that anyway.

 

[Cabal]

I would hardly say that Hebrew marriage was that romantic either. Probably not that likely to be so for the wife - and all the other wives.

 

[moonkitty]

You are a romantic at heart? What I said is very unromantic.. but it is what I tell my kids. They are in search for their perfect princes and princess. I think we have all been there. Young girls think if they can just find their prince and have his baby their life will be complete. Young boys, I think..., want sex with a girl who will take care of them like mom does, and who is beautiful and make their guy friends envious.

Is this true? It seems true to me. What advice do you give these boys, or these girls?

I don't find what you said unromantic at all. While it wasn't couched in flowery words and dripping with poetry, what you said about marriage was romantic in someways. Basically you state that marriage was making a commitment of taking care of each other for life, and building your life with that person. To me that is romantic.

 

[Amber the Duskbringer]

I don't find what you said unromantic at all. While it wasn't couched in flowery words and dripping with poetry, what you said about marriage was romantic in someways. Basically you state that marriage was making a commitment of taking care of each other for life, and building your life with that person. To me that is romantic.

This. So much this.

 

[Reine]

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I don't find what you said unromantic at all. While it wasn't couched in flowery words and dripping with poetry, what you said about marriage was romantic in someways. Basically you state that marriage was making a commitment of taking care of each other for life, and building your life with that person. To me that is romantic.

You have a good perspective IMO. I just had my twenty fourth wedding aniversary, and it has not been all roses every day of those twenty-four years. During our time together, we made a family ... which is a huge support system. We built a business together from the bottom up, have shared memories and assets. Sometimes we have both been known to act down right stupid. Often the grass isn't cut, and hubby's hand is stuck to the TV remote. But, I have a husband, a yard, a TV and a remote... that's quite a bit from my point of view

 

[drstevej]

I don't find what you said unromantic at all. While it wasn't couched in flowery words and dripping with poetry, what you said about marriage was romantic in someways. Basically you state that marriage was making a commitment of taking care of each other for life, and building your life with that person. To me that is romantic.

Interestingly, at the core of marriage as presented in Genesis 2 is the need for COMPANIONSHIP. In weddings I have often referred to marriage as a covenant of companionship. This is not to eliminate the sexual and romantic aspects. Both the sexual and romantic are a dimension of the companionship.

I could be handy, mending a fuse when your lights have gone
You can knit a sweater by the fireside, Sunday mornings, go for a ride
Doing the garden, digging the weeds, who could ask for more?
Will you still need me, will you still feed me when I'm sixty-four?

Every summer we can rent a cottage
In the Isle of Wight if it's not to, dear
We shall scrimp and save
Ah, grandchildren on your knee, Vera, Chuck and Dave

 

[Caitlin.ann]

Polyamory would be great in my relationship right now. But really, I Have no issue with it whatsoever. What consenting adults decide to do in their bedrooms is up to them.

 

[razeontherock]

My brother once called his wife while she was at work because he cut his finger and couldn't find the bandaides He is 6 2" and is a deer hunter and rides a harley . When you are independent, you have a more likely chance of being with your mate because you want to, not because you need to.

Interesting illustration, of a very good point.

I tell my daughters that young girls are all on a mad dash to find their prince, ... but what they don't know is that Robin Hood was not climbing tower walls and swinging from vines becuase he really loved Maid Marrion so much, but because it was fun and it looked cool.

Not all guys are so shallow (Never expected to find any appropriate use of those)

The proverbs woman considers a field and buys it, which indicates she workes and plans for investing. She has a brain and doesn't only depend on her husband. But, they have formed a team

B-b-but any modern person know the Bible is misogynistic, oppressive, archaic and tacitly useless

 

[nom]

Marriage is a business arrangement to protect the involved parties. They dedicate their lives and time building and sharing assets, producing offspring and saving for retirement. They work together to gain a material and emotional system for their existence. marriage is a symbol of the intentions of each person, and it is the protection in case either party doesn't hold up their end of the deal. It is a simple as that.

sure, but who is to say three or more people can't do that?

 

[razeontherock]

That's not marriage any longer, but a corporation

 

[drstevej]

New definition of family...

Spoiler: Answer is...

any group appearing on the Jerry Springer Show.

 

[nom]

That's not marriage any longer, but a corporation

false dichotomy. doesn't answer the question. kthx.

 

[disciple2011]

I thought that was why government was created.

No government is the logical progression of the dominant animal behaviour.

There is no difference between a monarch and an alpha male/female.

 

[disciple2011]

So being "average" in the animal kingdom is best?

Spoiler: Click to see an aberrant species

Common is the more apt term.

Humans exhibit common animal behaviour.

 

[Reine]

sure, but who is to say three or more people can't do that?

It is possible... but I rather think someone will be left out in the cold like Ishmael and his momma were :/

 

[drstevej]

It is possible... but I rather think someone will be left out in the cold like Ishmael and his momma were :/

So much for Big Love.

 

[disciple2011]

I have a husband, a yard, a TV and a remote... that's quite a bit from my point of view

An antediluvian point of view that manages to persist after women's suffrage.
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[Reine]

An antediluvian point of view that manages to persist after women's suffrage.

Why would my point of view reflect suffrage?