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Poll: Majority Says First Amendment Goes Too Far

Does 1A go too far?

  • Yes, curtail speech.

    Votes: 6 13.3%
  • No, keep speech free.

    Votes: 39 86.7%

  • Total voters
    45
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Or otherwise filed under, "Reasons for another civil war".

Majority of Americans Want to Scrap First Amendment, Polling Finds - Campaign for Free Speech

Here is how the poll results, released Wednesday, break down:
  • 57% of millennials say the First Amendment goes too far, while 35% disagree.
  • 47% of baby boomers say the First Amendment goes too far, compared to 48% who disagree.
  • 57% of all those polled say the government should be able to take action against newspapers and TV stations for biased content, compared to 35% who disagree.
  • 48% say hate speech should be against the law, while 31% say it should be allowed.
Read Newsmax: Poll: Majority Says First Amendment Goes Too Far
 

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This is how democracy dies.
 
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Well if they’ll remove a child from your home for verbal abuse and it’s also caused marriages to fail , I absolutely think hate speech should be made illegal . It harms people and encourages others to cause more harm
 
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Well if they’ll remove a child from your home for verbal abuse and it’s also caused marriages to fail , I absolutely think hate speech should be made illegal . It harms people and encourages others to cause more harm

Define hate speech?...If I say that per capita Black Folks in the US murder each other at the rate of 10 per 100,000, and White/Latino's are around 1.6 per 100,000, is that hate speech? What if I have good sources that differ from your sources, does that make what I say hate speech?

See what I'm saying?
 
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I’d say that using a statistic to claim that all black peoples are like that is just bias . We have different cultures. West Indians don’t act like Americans. Black Southerners have more in common with white southerners than they do with Black northerners . Yet you’re trying to stick all people of recent African descent into an amorphous crowd that doesn’t exist
 
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I want to go on record as being a firm supporter of the First Amendment -- and not just Free Speech. Hate Speech, as it is commonly defined (saying something negative about a minority), should not be illegal -- though the current limits, where you can be prosecuted for "inciting violence" seem about right.

At the same time, free speech only protects you from the government; it doesn't mean YouTube has to promote your video, it does not mean that you can't be fired if your employer doesn't like your comments, etc.
 
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Part of the problem here may be in the definition of hate speech. Here are the relevant passages from the Criminal Code of Canada:

Defined narrowly in this way I am content with such a limitation on free speech.
 
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A sampling from the U.K.

Police investigating 'hate crime' after transgender woman turned down for porn role 'because she has a penis'

A big social media following could earn you a harsher sentence if you're convicted of hate crime

Hate Speech: U.K. Political Leader Arrested for Quoting Winston Churchill

It's important to understand Americans will never put up with this. I would employ lethal self defence against a state looking to ruin my life because someone doesn't like my opinions. That is a hard red line that millions of us will not abide the crossing of.

The tyranny of leftist speech and thought suppression will ultimately end in violence. Suppression always leads to violence.
 
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Weird how you went immediately to complaining about how you're not allowed to talk about how black's are statistically inferior to whites.

SUPER WEIRD. Isn't it?
 
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Weird how you went immediately to complaining about how you're not allowed to talk about how black's are statistically inferior to whites.

SUPER WEIRD. Isn't it?

It was to make a point...and it is the truth!
 
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This is how democracy dies.

The times change and the Constitution and its Amendments need to change with it. That is exactly why the Constitution has already been amended 27 times.
 
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The times change and the Constitution and its Amendments need to change with it. That is exactly why the Constitution has already been amended 27 times.
Amending the Constitution (which has been referred to several times today) is not an issue. The Constitution provides for it and it can be done. What is a problem is the incessant effort on the part of some people to circumvent the Constitution.
 
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