Police Brutality at Occupy Wall St.

[mpok1519]

MSNBC on NYPD Police Brutality during Occupy Wall Street Lawrence O'donnell with "The Last Word" - YouTube


Thuggery with badges.

Apprently people don't have the right to peacefully assemble.

 

[mpok1519]

The women were being barricaded in, against the building, by police, blocking every path in-front, behind and to the side of them; a cop then walks up from out of frame, maces the group of peaceful women protesters, and walks away, as if nothing at all had happened.

I mean, wow.

Not only that instance, BUT MULTIPLE INSTANCES of police brutality.

Some thugs will do anything for a paycheck.

This is why whenever I see violence against police, it really doesn't affect me.

 

[Douger]

The footage of those women being corralled, then maced and left screaming on the pavement is chilling.
The officers involved should be fired outright.

 

[Wayte]

Watching the women after the mace was rather unsettling. I've had just a tiny bit of tear gas used on me before, and that was pretty bad. I can't imagine how to handle dealing with more than that for nor real reason.

And how can these police sleep at night doing these things? Guess it;s all about that feelin of authority, feelin like a big man. Pathetic.

 

[mpok1519]

I believe the officer in question is facing punishment....being fired just doesn't seem like enough of a punishment.

If you or I assaulted someone with pepperspray, we'd look at jail time and hefty fines.

 

[Douger]

I believe the officer in question is facing punishment....being fired just doesn't seem like enough of a punishment.

If you or I assaulted someone with pepperspray, we'd look at jail time and hefty fines.

Firing would be a pretty big deal for a police officer.
Losing the power and security of the job with the respect, the big salary, benefits, and pension, would certainly cause one to take a good hard look at his life.
It would also give others who might be on the same path a lot to think about.

In the end though, the police response was obviously ordered from higher up, not the macing, I mean the general crack down on the protesters.
That attitude towards peaceful protests and dissent is quite a serious problem and it's hard to say what can be done about it.

 

[Saving Hawaii]

Reminds me of an incident that happened a few years ago at one of the New York Critical Mass events. NYPD has a bad track record of gross offenses towards various protest actions in the city. Here's ABC News reporting about that incident:

ABC reports on NYPD officer attacking Critical Mass rider - YouTube

If my memory serves me correctly, the officer in question lost his job and I believe he ended up being convicted on criminal charges that the DA pressed though he served no jail time.

 

[ACougar]

What police need to understand is that by actions like these, they are delegitimizing themselves in the eyes of at least some of us.

 

[TerranceL]

This reminds me of the story of the homeless man who was murdered by cops in california.

The cop they are going to put on trial claims he was innocent.

If you still believe that the police exists to protect you, I have a bridge to sell you.

Good price too.

 

[Saving Hawaii]

This reminds me of the story of the homeless man who was murdered by cops in california. The cop they are going to put on trial claims he was innocent.

Hmm... so the police officers arrested a man who murdered somebody and the DA put him on criminal charges.

If you still believe that the police exists to protect you, I have a bridge to sell you. Good price too.

I'll buy it.

 

[Steve Petersen]

MSNBC on NYPD Police Brutality during Occupy Wall Street Lawrence O'donnell with "The Last Word" - YouTube


Thuggery with badges.

Apprently people don't have the right to peacefully assemble.

Shame on the Democratic mayor for doing this!

 

[mpok1519]

shame on any democratically elected official who does this. yesh.

 

[Billnew]

I can't watch video so I am going by what people say happened.

What police need to understand is that by actions like these, they are delegitimizing themselves in the eyes of at least some of us.

The police should have reacted to the assault on the women being contained.
It should be on the video of the cop being taken down, and hauled away in cuffs.

The police moving the women were doing their job. They needed the women moved out of the way. Peaceful response to a peaceful protest.

When any person attacks a group being compressed together by police, that person should be attacked by police. It does not matter if they wear a badge or not. Sadly, "protecting their own" still is the word of the day.

I have stood in a gas chamber with CS gas, I have never been sprayed with pepper spray, if they are anything alike, it is miserable. Pepper spray does have an area affect not just against the person that is sprayed.

Personally, I would have saluted the police that arrested this guy, and if he resisted they beat him like the two bit thug he is. For this, I would give them a standing o.

90% of police are good, sadly to many of these 90% believe in covering for the bad ones.
I don't expect cops to be perfect, but no one is above the law. Give a cop a warning instead of a speeding ticket, but when it comes to real crime, cops must enforce the laws even if the person breaking the law is wearing a badge, actually even more so.

 

[DaisyDay]

I can't watch video so I am going by what people say happened.

The police should have reacted to the assault on the women being contained.
It should be on the video of the cop being taken down, and hauled away in cuffs.

The police moving the women were doing their job. They needed the women moved out of the way. Peaceful response to a peaceful protest.

When any person attacks a group being compressed together by police, that person should be attacked by police. It does not matter if they wear a badge or not. Sadly, "protecting their own" still is the word of the day.

I have stood in a gas chamber with CS gas, I have never been sprayed with pepper spray, if they are anything alike, it is miserable. Pepper spray does have an area affect not just against the person that is sprayed.

Personally, I would have saluted the police that arrested this guy, and if he resisted they beat him like the two bit thug he is. For this, I would give them a standing o.

90% of police are good, sadly to many of these 90% believe in covering for the bad ones.
I don't expect cops to be perfect, but no one is above the law. Give a cop a warning instead of a speeding ticket, but when it comes to real crime, cops must enforce the laws even if the person breaking the law is wearing a badge, actually even more so.

The cops are not going to arrest someone of higher rank than they are - that would be career suicide.

 

[Billnew]

The cops are not going to arrest someone of higher rank than they are - that would be career suicide.

There-in lies the problem.

Actually, I think it would be the same for any experienced cop.(trainees or newbie cops would be excused and sent for retraining.) I think far to many police forces have the blue buddy system. Look the other way when a crime is commited by a cop, and then support them when investigated even if they were wrong.

The person should have been treated like any person walking by and spraying the citizens with pepper spray.

Until police can work this fear out, people will not trust police.

Again I can't see the video, but the police doing there job(the right one) should have instantly turned into first responders for the injured if no sign of force was observed. But I am betting they just stood back and did nothing to help nor to detain the criminal. Was I right in this guess?

Actually, even if force was threatened by the protestors, as soon as the threat is removed, they are suppose to render aid. Yes, that means you shoot the man pointing a gun at you, hand cuff him, then hold preasure on the wound while waiting for medical assistance.

 

[Saving Hawaii]

To quote one of the other police officers who'd been standing near the protestors: "I can't believe it! He just ----ing maced us!"

 

[TerranceL]

Hmm... so the police officers arrested a man who murdered somebody and the DA put him on criminal charges.

I'll buy it.

Mmm, I guess you don't know the story.

The incident happened over a month ago. The murder was caught on tape. The city spent the last month figuring out if they even wanted to press charges.

How would you feel if the government murdered your brother then took their time wondering if they should press charges for a murder?

 

[TerranceL]

I can't watch video so I am going by what people say happened.


The police should have reacted to the assault on the women being contained.
It should be on the video of the cop being taken down, and hauled away in cuffs.

I'm sorry you are still under the incorrect assumption that the police exists to protect you.

 

[mpok1519]

police exist to enforce laws. Laws protect you.

 

[TerranceL]

police exist to enforce laws. Laws protect you.

Except the supreme court says that the police don't have to protect you.

And laws are completely useless if there is nobody there to enforce them.

And lets say for a moment we lived in a society where the police actually did serve and protect, they aren't everywhere, and there are always people who think no matter what they will get away with it.

In this hypothetical world how effective do you think it would be to inform someone intent upon murdering you that they were breaking the law? Laws do not protect you.