Poisons

[AV1611VET]

If the Bible meant grape juice, it would say grape juice.

And if It meant rapture, It would say rapture ...

And if It meant trinity, It would say trinity ...

And if It meant ...

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

And if It meant rapture, It would say rapture ...

And if It meant trinity, It would say trinity ...

And if It meant ...

You're not proving your point. The Bible says wine, not grape juice.
Case closed.

 

[46AND2]

You're not proving your point. The Bible says wine, not grape juice.
Case closed.

With AV, the case is never closed. No matter how long the odds, or how enthorned the path, AV finds a route...

Hi AV!

 

[AV1611VET]

You're not proving your point. The Bible says wine, not grape juice.
Case closed.

You're my kid of guy!

The Bible says it, that settles it, eh?

For the record, when I tell my wife to get us some wine, she knows just what I mean.

 

[AV1611VET]

Hi AV!

Hello back, my friend!

 

[lesliedellow]

And if It meant rapture, It would say rapture ...

And if It meant trinity, It would say trinity ...

And if It meant ...

grape juice, it would say χυμος σταφυλι

 

[46AND2]

grape juice, it would say χυμος σταφαλι

Somehow just doesn't seem as tasty...

 

[lesliedellow]

Somehow just doesn't seem as tasty...

I don't know. With my sweet tooth, I prefer sugar to alcohol - cheaper too. Rots my teeth of course.

 

[AV1611VET]

grape juice, it would say χυμος σταφυλι

And if It meant rapture, It would say έκσταση ...

And if It meant trinity, It would say τριάς ...

Ya, I get your logic.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

You're my kid of guy!

The Bible says it, that settles it, eh?

For the record, when I tell my wife to get us some wine, she knows just what I mean.

For a guy who routinely says "The Bible says it, that settles it", you really enjoy having arguments about what the Bible says.

And for the record, I don't really care. Your grammatical idiosyncrasies do not change the fact that the Bible clearly says, in Hebrew, Greek, English, French, German and all of the other languages it's written in, wine not grape juice.

Although I will admit that it is fun to have you back.

 

[Quid est Veritas?]

And if It meant rapture, It would say rapture ...

And if It meant trinity, It would say trinity ...

And if It meant ...

A bit of a silly argument. Those words did not exist when the NT was written as those concepts were only articulated later based on it. However, wine was drunk as was juice and they clearly opted for wine.

 

[lesliedellow]

And if It meant rapture, It would say έκσταση ...

And if It meant trinity, It would say τριάς ...

Ya, I get your logic.

Simple fact: the phrase "grape juice" does not appear in the NT, but the word "wine" does.

 

[46AND2]

I don't know. With my sweet tooth, I prefer sugar to alcohol - cheaper too. Rots my teeth of course.

Alas, it is not about preference for me...women won't have me, so I've plenty of money for both. heh.

 

[AV1611VET]

A bit of a silly argument. Those words did not exist when the NT was written as those concepts were only articulated later based on it. However, wine was drunk as was juice and they clearly opted for wine.

As I understand it, the word "grape juice" didn't exist either; and God's choice word for it was "wine."

Over time, "wine" as grape juice fell out of use and became only the fermented kind.

Equivalent words would be "queer" and "[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]."

ETA: Okay, skip that second example.

Once legitimate words, but then hijacked and now considered perjorative.

When I first joined here, "Arab phone" was a legitimate entry in Wikipedia, and I used it a lot.

But it was removed from Wikipedia, and when I use it now, newbies don't know what I'm talking about.

 

[46AND2]

As I understand it, the word "grape juice" didn't exist either; and God's choice word for it was "wine."

Over time, "wine" as grape juice fell out of use and became only the fermented kind.

Equivalent words would be "queer" and "[bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]."

ETA: Okay, skip that second example.

Once legitimate words, but then hijacked and now considered perjorative.

When I first joined here, "Arab phone" was a legitimate entry in Wikipedia, and I used it a lot.

But it was removed from Wikipedia, and when I use it now, newbies don't know what I'm talking about.

Did "grape juice" exist when the KJV was written?

 

[AV1611VET]

Simple fact: the phrase "grape juice" does not appear in the NT, but the word "wine" does.

Simple fact: drinking is a sin.

 

[46AND2]

Simple fact: drinking is a sin.

Bible doesn't say that.

 

[AV1611VET]

Did "grape juice" exist when the KJV was written?

I think so.

 

[lesliedellow]

Simple fact: drinking is a sin.

So Jesus was a sinner? That's a new one. It would have got you burnt at the stake a few centuries back.

 

[AV1611VET]

Bible doesn't say that.

Let me guess: smoking isn't a sin either, is it?