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Please Provide Historical Proof That Peter Was The First Pope.

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stone said:
it all contains the teaching of Y-shua and his apostles. What difference does it make when it was finalized? now, how bout some scripture.

Are you therefore concluding that all the teachings of Jesus are contained in scripture?

Forgive me....:liturgy:
 
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stone said:
yea, i guess my point is that the op is not biblical

True... but not everything about Christiainity is scriptural.

Forgive me...:liturgy:
 
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racer said:
I know the OP asks for historical proof that Peter was the first Pope. Well, since I don't think Peter, nor anybody else, was first, third or last Pope, that's not why I'm posting.

http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/0107.htm
If you're not posting, then why are you posting? :scratch:
 
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there is no historical proof, before A.D. 125, that I have seen, which proves Peter as being the first Bishop of Rome.
Im curious--do you believe what they teach you about Alexander the Great in school? Cause you know the earliest biography we have of him is from 1000 yrs after his death. Your insistence that there be a specific writing pre-125 makes no sense and is really just poopy.
 
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There is no evidence of Peter being the first Bishop of Rome within the word of God, which I place my faith in, and from whence my, and every other Christian's faith comes from.

according to this logic, once the book of Acts turns to Paul, Peter ceases to exist.
this logic also makes me want to gouge my eyes out and replace them with grapenuts.
 
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jckstraw72 said:
Im curious--do you believe what they teach you about Alexander the Great in school? Cause you know the earliest biography we have of him is from 1000 yrs after his death. Your insistence that there be a specific writing pre-125 makes no sense and is really just poopy.

Well, history has been known to be wrong. But, in the case of Peter being in Rome, historical evidence shows Peter and Paul to both have been in Rome and martyred there. Now, here's the right link from Ireneaus, not Ignatius:

http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/anf01.ix.iv.iv.html#ix.iv.iv-p2.3
 
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jckstraw72 said:
according to this logic, once the book of Acts turns to Paul, Peter ceases to exist.
this logic also makes me want to gouge my eyes out and replace them with grapenuts.


Yikes!

I first read grapefruits instead of grapenuts!!! :eek:
 
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