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Hi,
So some background, I grew up in a religious group that believes that they are the only ones guaranteed to go to heaven... the only right way. It is not listed as a belief of theirs but it's an underlying current in their teachings and sermons.

As a child I was diagnosed with OCD it started off with unwelcome and intrusive thoughts about sex and hand washing but once I became of age to understand that sex was a natural thing it morphed (as these things do) into a blasphemous thoughts/anti Christ belief.

One night when I was 14 or 15 in the depths of my despair I prayed that if God forgave my blasphemy or being the anti/Christ that I would be a preacher for this religious group if it was his will.

Once I graduated high school convicted by this prayer I asked many times for signs etc that that was Gods will for my life, I only received no answers, or no answer at all.

Some years passed and I felt that I had been answered, my OCD turned to other fears, body dysmorphia and chemtrail fears.

Now I have come full circle and am worried that once again I have to be a preacher for this group. I have also begun to have blasphemous OCD once again.

Most days I wake up either thinking curses to God intrusively or feel that I am outside his will for not being a preacher. I recently woke up on the day of a plane trip sick to my stomach because I felt that god was going to crash the plane. I.e Jonah. I lay awake some nights worried that God is sending someone to kill me.

I also have intrusive vows such as worried about vowing to kill God, (not possible obviously) or
vow away a relationship or something I love.

I have many compulsions, things I say to right the wrongs I think. Such as cursing myself instead of God....can't bring myself to write an example or making counter vows or vowing not to vow.

Also I will stare at the clock and say "if the clock turns to this time or that time right now I have to be a preacher" or " I have committed blasphemy"

One new one and the most damaging is I will pray " God if I have to be a preacher then let my phone get a text when I say "now" right after this prayer, if that happens I vow I will do it but if it doesn't I vow I won't" and I won't ask again.

One time when I said that it did go off with a text, which has sent me into a tailspin..and another time was close

I have said this maybe 15 times today already, and most days are the same. I have even vowed to stop this and have continued doing it

It's like I can't stop, it builds up the anxiety inside me until I can't breathe or think and I feel that it could be god moving me say the vow.

I don't currently take medication. I have gone to a pastoral psychologist who tells me it is not of God and it is "magical thinking" symptoms of OCD but it doesn't feel that way, sometimes I doubt I have a problem at all.

I also have trouble believeing him because he isn't part of the group I grew up in, (he is a mislead Christian) or (believes false teachings) even though he was a priest himself. ( non catholic)

I spend most days feeling like I'm living a lie and feeling sick and assaulted in my mind. I don't know what to do. Is this God speaking?

I don't feel like I know God.

I feel like I have to be a
preacher in this group that teaches they are the only group that is right. And if someone doesn't hear their preaching they may be saved but if
They hear it and don't join the church they will be doomed

I don't know what to do or where to turn. And feel I may even be wrong or going against God for writing this.
 
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Yes, I have and I am. But non-Christian counselors don't understand the effect on someone who believes life this can have.

And my current counselor who I chose because he is a pastoral psychologist, seems to help but I have trouble listening to him or believing him because I was raised to think all other religion or doctrine is false. So if he doesn't go to my church he must be false.. kind of thinking
 
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Would you think the same if you had cancer and your cancer doc didn't go to your church?
 
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Would you think the same if you had cancer and your cancer doc didn't go to your church?

I suppose I wouldn't think the same. I understand what you are saying, it's just believing it is hard without feeling like I'm just unwilling to listen to God
 
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What is chemtrail? I think you need to see a doctor. It sounds like you might need therapy and medication.

Chemtrail...like the trails behind planes that the government is using to manipulate weather and or poison the population. Looking back now I know it is silly but it controlled my feelings and happiness for a good while
 
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I suppose I wouldn't think the same. I understand what you are saying, it's just believing it is hard without feeling like I'm just unwilling to listen to God
I understand that feeling. But the truth is that when you're sick God wants you to go to a doctor in addition to praying to Him. Right now you are sick (with OCD) and your counselor is your doctor. You getting better from your OCD will make you a better person and a better Christian. I would focus on building a relationship of trust with your doctor (aka counselor) so he can best help you on that quest to be a better person/Christian.
 
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Chemtrail...like the trails behind planes that the government is using to manipulate weather and or poison the population. Looking back now I know it is silly but it controlled my feelings and happiness for a good while
You know rationally it is exhaust from a plane, correct?

Anyway, I think you need to see a doctor. God has given us the gift of intelligence, and people have used their intelligence to invent modern medicine to help the sick. Jesus is called the Great Physician. He wants you to be better.
 
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I do understand that, but part of me still fears the other explanation, thank you for taking the time to respond.
"the other explanation" = that by listening to your counselor you're not listening to God? Life's not a counselor vs doc thing, any more than it's a cancer doc vs God thing. I'm going to guess here, but has your counselor recommended anything that goes against God?

In my personal experience with counseling, we focused a lot of things like self awareness and thinking patterns- things which weren't against God, but rather were tools to help me draw closer to God. For example: great self awareness better help me see the many blessings from Him.
 
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I do understand that, but part of me still fears the other explanation, thank you for taking the time to respond.
It's alright. Think about how many thousands and thousands of planes fly all the time. If their exhaust was poisonous, surely the atmosphere would be too poisoned right now, right?
 
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No he hasn't as far as I know. But when he tells me that feeling like I need to be a preacher for a church I don't believe in is just my OCD, I feel like I'm going against God
 
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It's alright. Think about how many thousands and thousands of planes fly all the time. If their exhaust was poisonous, surely the atmosphere would be too poisoned right now, right?

Yeah it's just the idea is that they use it for weather manipulation etc. it's quite a following they have online. I mean a lot of things have quite a following. I suppose I could be called a bit of a conspiracy theorist. But I think my mind enjoys tormenting me with that fear-porn kind of stuff.
 
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No he hasn't as far as I know. But when he tells me that feeling like I need to be a preacher for a church I don't believe in is just my OCD, I feel like I'm going against God
Well, what does a person need to do in order to actively be a preacher? Having a paralyzing condition stops a person from actively being a preacher, doesn't it?

Therefore, in order to be a preacher, you need to overcome this paralyzing OCD first (along with Bible study, prayer, etc). So working on your healing is working on the path to being a preacher. And if at the time you OCD is under control and you still want/feel to be a preacher (which sounds very likely) you can further pursue that goal by applying for ministry training.

Once you are healed from your OCD your praises to the Lord will be like a once-lame-man jumping for joy in praise. (I'm sorry if that's poor English).
 
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Oh, I guess if you know rationally that the government is not using planes to poison the Earth, then that is good. Like a step in the right direction.
God does not give us fear, but a sound mind. If you believe that God is in control, no matter what, it makes it easier to face fears. I am a fearful person by nature, but I know God is sovereign and nothing happens without Him allowing it to happen. So it does help me not be as fearful as my natural self is inclined to be.

I hope knowing this helps you as well.
 
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To be a preacher for that church, requires not getting married ever, not having a house, and (i assume ) believing that they are the only church going to heaven. That is what makes it so hard to shake this fear that I have. If i didn't feel like I had to be a preacher because of what i said when I was younger i wouldn't ever go back to that church.

You are certainly right however, about my state of mind now currently preventing me from being a preacher..even holding a bible causes me to have obsessions never mind attending church or something like that.
 
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Thats true, and I do know that God ultimately is in control. I just need to have more faith.
 
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Actually the requirements for being a preacher varies by denomination. Groups also vary on whether or not they view you having to go to their church/denomination/etc to go to Heaven. For example, Methodist preachers can be married, own a house, and only proclaim that you don't have to be Methodist to go to Heaven. If you want I can give more examples of different views.
You are certainly right however, about my state of mind now currently preventing me from being a preacher..even holding a bible causes me to have obsessions never mind attending church or something like that.
Excitably! You are like the many people in need of Christ's healing. Let him heal your metaphorically lame legs and then you may dance singing His praises.
 
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