Is it really our church? Jesus said He would build His church, so doesn't this mean the church is His?
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Do you understand our FSG's? Do you understand that to post here to debate or answer questions you must be a Catholic in FULL Communion with the Holy See and assent to ALL the Catholic Church teaches?
I would say that your background does NOT qualify you to answer questions about the Catholic Church or discuss it here, for if you were properly catechized and understood the the Catholic faith, you would still be Catholic.
Please stop flaunting our FSG's like this, and respect our forum is a safe haven for Catholics and quit attacking our Church. You are NOT qualified to do so in any manner.
Your ideas of biblical truth are your own, and simply your own opinion, and since those ideas do not line up with the teaching of the Catholic Church in which is preserved ALL truth and the FULLNESS of truth, any of your ideas which depart from, or contradict the Catholic Church ARE NOT biblical truths. . . just a mistaken pov.
Would that imply that Stephen was snless as well?
Thanks Joab
In reading this, I find it interesting that it states that Mary was given this grace and shown such favor by God even before she accepted the angel's word or could do anything to earn it, yet it is such a odd thing when we say God does the same for His elect. This does make Mary's regeneration before she could accept Christ in thetraditional sense more easily understood.
Also, I can understand Mary being shown this grace before conception but I still see no need that she be sinless. The material cites Samson's mother not consuming unclean things as an example, but those things are taken in by the body and would have been transferred through the blood to the child, sin is ones life is not active in the body in the same manner.
Actually Stephen was said to be full of grace, that is why I asked, but it was a different Greek term translated the same way.No. Stephen wasn't called to born our Lord. He wasn't told that he would be blessed among women or that people would call him blessed. He wasn't told that he was full of grace...
Stephen was not sinless. I hope that helps. It's nice to see you Pete.
Since we believe this, we also know that God cannot touch anything unholy. Anything unholy cannot be in His presense.
We believe that because God is not subjected to our terminalogy of time... that somehow, the santification and salvation gift of grace that was provided to us by Jesus was also provided to Mary even before His birth.
I have to ask a serious question. I was following another thread and it linked to a website. On that website was a daily prayer to Mary.
Here is excerpt from that prayer:
"In thine intercession I put all my trust, all my hope of salvation"
Would you truthfully put all of your hope in your salvation upon Mary's intercession?
sister, you are more then welcome to post here, but since you are not Catholic you can not teach, what you are doing is teaching things that go agianst the Catholic Church, you have set yourself up as the ultimate spiritual authority, are you the only one who can read the Bible and know what it means?When man-instituted Catholic Church Doctrine negates Scripture, and in the case of purgatory- it clearly does, I cannot and will not conform to those teachings. You should not either. The bible warns us about this! Don't take my word for it, study it for yourself. In cases where Catholic Doctrine are in harmony with the Holy, inerrant and infallible Word of God, I do submit to those teachings as they are from God and not made up by man. The Holy Spirit has lead me to the truth and my prayer is that you are lead to the truth as well. If you could back up what you believe, you would have defended your faith rather than had my post deleted. Instead, you know the Word of God cannot be refuted. Yet you hide from the light. Why? Purgatory is not the only doctrine Catholics teach that is not biblical. There are many. If you would like me to share my knowledge, I will be more than happy to do so. Don't reject what God wants to share with you. Don't reject His Word, the utmost reliable, and the ultimate source that can depend on for accuracy. I still have a copy of my post. I did not state any opinions. I stated facts and backed every one of them up with Scripture. You simply cannot do the same. Do you know why? Because it just isn't true!
Actually Stephen was said to be full of grace, that is why I asked, but it was a different Greek term translated the same way.
Do you understand our FSG's? Do you understand that to post here to debate or answer questions you must be a Catholic in FULL Communion with the Holy See and assent to ALL the Catholic Church teaches?
I would say that your background does NOT qualify you to answer questions about the Catholic Church or discuss it here, for if you were properly catechized and understood the the Catholic faith, you would still be Catholic.
Please stop flaunting our FSG's like this, and respect our forum is a safe haven for Catholics and quit attacking our Church. You are NOT qualified to do so in any manner.
Your ideas of biblical truth are your own, and simply your own opinion, and since those ideas do not line up with the teaching of the Catholic Church in which is preserved ALL truth and the FULLNESS of truth, any of your ideas which depart from, or contradict the Catholic Church ARE NOT biblical truths. . . just a mistaken pov.
Grace, do you mind if I call you Grace?Of course we do! Jesus said I am the way, the truth, and the life. Nobody comes to the Father except through me. But you need to go talk to my mom first. Oh wait, He didn't say that, did He?
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btw Therese, what is the Great Commission? If you are so certain that what I have said is wrong and that I was improperly "catechized", then isn't it your duty to lead me back to the flock? Yet you choose to censor me. You should know it's not me you are censoring. Rather, it's the Word of God.
and he was full of grace- have you read about his story?Actually Stephen was said to be full of grace, that is why I asked, but it was a different Greek term translated the same way.
Mary had to be sinless because she was full of grace, so why does the same not apply to Stephen who was also said to be full of grace?
I have to ask a serious question. I was following another thread and it linked to a website. On that website was a daily prayer to Mary.
Here is excerpt from that prayer:
"In thine intercession I put all my trust, all my hope of salvation"
Would you truthfully put all of your hope in your salvation upon Mary's intercession?
sin is passed through the male line?i personally do not believe mary is without sin
i went to a catholic school where we were taught that mary was sinless, but every human is born with original sin(the fall of adam and eve) except for jesus because original sin is passed through the male line an jesus father is god
if she was without sin she would not be human
sin is passed through the male line?
that seems kind of odd, why would it be passed through the fathers and not the mothers?
is it biological? sperm cells hold onto more sin then egg cells?
that seems... odd
can you show me where it says that sin is passed through the fathers in the Bible?
if she was without sin she would not be human
Are you in sin when you recieve absolution in the sacrament of penance?
No? Then are you a diety the moment you leave that sacrament? No either?
Well then, whats not adding up here?
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