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please help me with this dilemma about my faith (blasphemous thoughts)

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Kitten22, Aug 18, 2019.

  1. Kitten22

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  2. Jonaitis

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    It sounds like what they call 'Intrusive Thoughts,' a form of OCD anxiety. They are unwanted thoughts that enter your mind as if they are your own. If you have faith in Christ, and know that you don't believe these thoughts, then you will not go to hell. Read Romans 8:1.

    This has become very common for some odd reason. My younger brother has it severely. I hope and pray the Lord will help you overcome this anxiety.
     
  3. Unofficial Reverand Alex

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    Good afternoon, Kitten!

    I once e-mailed a Catholic speaker (Chris Stefanick) who had a great talk on what he called "The new sexual revolution" about some of my issues with lustful thoughts just popping into my head like this. What he said is apparently an old adage, but I found it new & extremely helpful:

    You can't keep a bird from flying over your head, but you can stop it from making a nest in your hair.

    Sometimes, thoughts are going to come. Know that they are just a fact of life; temptations will come, temptations will pass. Think of the theology God wrote in the sky; storms will come, they may be severe, but you really have no control over them, and they will always, always pass.

    God's blessings on your journey to serve Him well!
     
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  4. St_Worm2

    St_Worm2 Senior Member Supporter

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    Hi @Kitten22, it sounds like our common enemy is up to his usual tricks :( When you get thoughts like those, take them "captive" immediately, and hand them over to the Lord to deal with instead .. 2 Corinthians 10:5, and you will fulfill another of the Lord's commands when you do .. James 4:7; 1 Peter 5:8-9.

    If you feel you have sinned however, then confess your sin(s) to the Lord and know that He has forgiven you, because that's what He promised us that He would do .. 1 John 1:9. IOW, trust Him and take Him at His word (whether or not you "feel" forgiven in the moment).

    As for the unpardonable sin, if you are worried about committing it, you haven't :) In fact, I don't believe that it can be committed today. Here is a short teaching about it from our friends at "Got Questions". Just FYI, the text is the same text that's used in the video, so you can watch and/or listen to it.

    Question: "What is the unpardonable sin / unforgivable sin?"

    Answer:
    The unpardonable/unforgivable sin or “blasphemy of the Holy Spirit” is mentioned in Mark 3:22–30 and Matthew 12:22–32. Jesus said, “Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter” (Mark 3:28), but then He gives one exception: “Whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin” (verse 29).



    According to Jesus, the unpardonable or unforgivable sin is unique. It is the one iniquity that will never be forgiven (“never” is the meaning of “either in this age or in the age to come” in Matthew 12:32). The unforgivable sin is blasphemy (“defiant irreverence”) of the Holy Spirit in the context of the Spirit’s work in the world through Christ. In other words, the particular case of blasphemy seen in Matthew 12 and Mark 3 is unique. The guilty party, a group of Pharisees, had witnessed irrefutable evidence that Jesus was working miracles in the power of the Holy Spirit, yet they claimed that He was possessed by the prince of demons, Beelzebul (Matthew 12:24; Mark 3:30).

    The Jewish leaders of Jesus’ day committed the unpardonable sin by accusing Jesus Christ (in person, on earth) of being demon-possessed. They had no excuse for such an action. They were not speaking out of ignorance or misunderstanding. The Pharisees knew that Jesus was the Messiah sent by God to save Israel. They knew the prophecies were being fulfilled. They saw Jesus’ wonderful works, and they heard His clear presentation of truth. Yet they deliberately chose to deny the truth and slander the Holy Spirit. Standing before the Light of the World, bathed in His glory, they defiantly closed their eyes and became willfully blind. Jesus pronounced that sin to be unforgivable.

    The blasphemy against the Holy Spirit, specific as it was to the Pharisees’ situation, cannot be duplicated today. Jesus Christ is not on earth, and no one can personally see Jesus perform a miracle and then attribute that power to Satan instead of the Spirit. The only unpardonable sin today is that of continued unbelief. There is no pardon for a person who dies in his rejection of Christ. The Holy Spirit is at work in the world, convicting the unsaved of sin, righteousness, and judgment (John 16:8). If a person resists that conviction and remains unrepentant, then he is choosing hell over heaven. “Without faith it is impossible to please God” (Hebrews 11:6), and the object of faith is Jesus (Acts 16:31). There is no forgiveness for someone who dies without faith in Christ.

    God has provided for our salvation in His Son (John 3:16). Forgiveness is found exclusively in Jesus (John 14:6). To reject the only Savior is to be left with no means of salvation; to reject the only pardon is, obviously, unpardonable.

    Many people fear they have committed some sin that God cannot or will not forgive, and they feel there is no hope for them, no matter what they do. Satan would like nothing more than to keep people laboring under that misconception. God gives encouragement to the sinner who is convicted of his sin: “Come near to God and he will come near to you” (James 4:8). “Where sin increased, grace increased all the more” (Romans 5:20). And the testimony of Paul is proof positive that God can and will save anyone who comes to Him in faith (1 Timothy 1:12–17). If you are suffering under a load of guilt today, rest assured that you have not committed the unpardonable sin. God is waiting with open arms. Jesus’ promise is that “he is able to save completely those who come to God through him” (Hebrews 7:25). Our Lord will never fail. “Surely God is my salvation; I will trust and not be afraid. The LORD, the LORD himself, is my strength and my defense; he has become my salvation” (Isaiah 12:2).

    ~What is the unpardonable sin / unforgivable sin? | GotQuestions.org
    God bless you!

    --David
    p.s. - I see that you are brand new around here, so WELCOME TO CF :wave: (if you would like some additional teachings concerning the unpardonable sin, just let me know). Praying for you.
     
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  5. Oscarr

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    It is usually the devil who puts those thoughts into your mind, and then makes you believe you thought them yourself, and then he brings thoughts of condemnation because of those thoughts. The devil is a liar, and he uses this technique to make you doubt your faith, and weaken your faith in the promises of God for your salvation.
     
  6. tturt

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    Remember reading when the enemy spoke to Eve, it shows that we might not be responsible for that first thought about something. So in your case, as already posted, turn your thoughts to God's Word Think of your favorite Scriptures!
     
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    IF it wasn't for today/future then Jesus wouldn't say "in the age to come " so you're wrong .
     
  8. PizzaAddict

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    1. Most important is person doesn't go to hell for such thing if you have dubts where you go if you would die today then examine yourself if you are in faith or not like Paul said.

    Salvation is not of works it has nothing to do what you say , yes God will punish you in one way or another for sinning and blasphemy as loving father would do to correct their kid but it has nothing to do with being saved , salvation is free of charge done by Christ on cross.
    1 Corinthians 15:1-4 , Ephesians 2:8-9 , Galatians 2:16 , Ephesians 1:13-14, Romans 3:20.

    Your saying blasphemous things is not worse or better in any way than murder , stealing of lying since 1 sin make you sinner that's why Jesus had to come to save us with his perfect life , therefore calm down . James 2:10 , Romans 3:23

    2. Christian can't commit blasphemy against HS it's simply impossible to do. This blasphemy is not what you say but what you believe , every unbeliever in Christ commited blasphemy against HS .
     
  9. Oscarr

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    You may be right, but there is no way a truly converted Christian believer will blaspheme the Holy Spirit. He has been born again of the Spirit, received a new heart and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, therefore it would be the last thing he would ever want to do. I can't say the same about religious hypocrites who came over the wall instead of the through the narrow gate of Christ, and the unconverted who would have no problem about blaspheming God in any way they please.
     
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    Agreed. We can't stop birds landing on our heads, but we can prevent them from making nests there. The devil will think nothing of blaspheming the Holy Spirit and implanting the same thoughts into a believer's mind to make them think they have done the same thing. We can plead the blood against such thoughts to blow them away.
     
  11. St_Worm2

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    Hi PizzaAddict, I believe a certain situation existed in the 1st Century when Jesus walked among us that cannot be duplicated today because He is in Heaven. I'm not saying that I couldn't be wrong about that, of course, but the Unpardonable Sin is ~very~ specific in nature, so it doesn't seem possible for someone to commit it today. The fact that Jesus mentions that it cannot be forgiven in the age to come seems obvious enough, since there is no sin which is forgivable on the other side of the grave.

    That said, I wonder if we have a different understanding of what the unpardonable sin actually is? How do you define it?

    Thanks!

    --David
     
  12. 1213

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    I don't think that will send you to hell. It is normal to get all kind of ideas. In this world it is difficult to avoid all bad ideas. Crucial thing is what you do with ideas. If you reject bad ideas, you do well. :)
     
  13. Kitten22

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    Hi guys I’m feeling a little better but it’s stipl always in the back of my mind that I’m going to hell:disrelieved:
     
  14. Knee V

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    Why would the God who desires our salvation decide to make one thing unforgivable and make that unforgivable things horribly easy to commit?

    If thoughts popping into our heads were unforgivable, there would be no salvation.
     
  15. Tolworth John

    Tolworth John Well-Known Member

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    If Jesus is your Lord and Saviour, why would you end up in hell?
    Only non Christian will go there.


    Please re examin what makes you a Christian?
    If it is anything other than faith in Jesus please talk to your minister.

    To reassure you only Christian worry about sin.
     
  16. Kitten22

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    I had calmed down but now I’m freaking out because of the question I wrote if I said what I was thinking in my mind doesn’t that mean I’ve just committed. Oh my please help
     
  17. Kian-vg

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    No you need to calm down before you accidentally say it what i had and believe me you are going to panic more. But thats also not unforgiveable sin
     
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