Please : Do they know of which astrological sign was Jesus ?

[peter2]

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[NBB]

All the counsel you have received has only worn you out!
Let your astrologers come forward,
those stargazers who make predictions month by month,
let them save you from what is coming upon you.

 

[High Fidelity]

Astrology is utter nonsense.

 

[peter2]

Astrology is utter nonsense.

All the counsel you have received has only worn you out!
Let your astrologers come forward,
those stargazers who make predictions month by month,
let them save you from what is coming upon you.

Thank you.
"Wise men", in some translations happen to be called : "magi", which in french means : "priest and astrologer of antic Assyrie".
i was just following this hypothetic clue Jesus might have been influenced by an astrology-related speech they might have told Joseph and Mary.
i say to myself : "why not, if we consider Gabriel or Symeon's speeches have influenced Jesus through what his parents have heard ?".

 

[Delvianna]

Astrology is not of God. There isn't going to be an answer for this.

 

[peter2]

Astrology is not of God. There isn't going to be an answer for this.

Hello Delvianna. Than you for being informative.
Yet, the controversial Santa Claus is not from God either, and many express an opinion on his legend.
(To be honest, no response won't undermine my sleep)

PS i don't want to promote astrology, but i had an inoffensive vision of it. May be i was wrong

 

[Delvianna]

Hello Delvianna. Than you for being informative.
Yet, the controversial Santa Claus is not from God either, and many express an opinion on his legend.
(To be honest, no response won't undermine my sleep)

PS i don't want to promote astrology, but i had an inoffensive vision of it. May be i was wrong

If worldly people want to express an opinion on a worldly figure like Santa Clause, that's up to them. But trying to attribute something not of God, to Christ is an issue in itself. It's equivalent to asking a Satanist their interpretation of the 10 commandments and then following their answer. Nothing good will come of it.

 

[peter2]

But trying to attribute something not of God, to Christ is an issue in itself

Such was not my aim. i thank you to keep the word of God better than i do. Please consider i don't master the english speaking enough.

It seems to me, yet, the magi or wise men were not necessarily from God.
Now, it's out of them that i was questionning the hypothetic and astrological influence over Joseph, Mary, and finally Jesus. Not from God

PS It looks like wise men were looking for the king of the Jews in order to bow down before him, not for worshipping our God

 

[Delvianna]

Such was not my aim. i thank you to keep the word of God better than i do. Please consider i don't master the english speaking enough.

It seems to me, yet, the magi or wise men were not necessarily from God.
Now, it's out of them that i was questionning the hypothetic influence over Joseph, Mary, and finally Jesus. Not from God

What does the bible say about "wise" men vs "fools"? There is only 1 definition to that. If you think "wise" men weren't wise, then that is altering the biblical definition when it uses the word "wise" unless the verse specifically calls it out.

For instance, an example of calling it out: "Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools." - Romans 1:22

An example of using the definition: "[God] gives wisdom to the wise and knowledge to those who have understanding." -Daniel 2:21
"Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock." - Matthew 7:24

So if the bible calls them "wise" men with no other context, then they are from God and are wise.

 

[peter2]

So if the bible calls them "wise" men with no other context, then they are from God and are wise

Yes, sorry to have edited and added my PS too late, but i'm not sure their wisdom made them aware they were before God. I think they just thought to bow down before a king, this of the Jews.

 

[Delvianna]

Yes, sorry to have edited and added my PS too late, but i'm not sure their wisdom made them aware they were before God. I think they just thought to bow down before a king, this of the Jews.

What were the gifts?
Gold - For a King
Frankincense - For a Priest (This was specifically burned in the Temple and was reserved for God alone)
Myrrh - which was used to embalm the dead

Oh they knew exactly who Jesus was.

 

[jacks]

I don't think we know what astrologic sign Jesus was. There doesn't seem to be an agreement on when he was born. Also to really know His sign, we would have to know where and what hour he was born. Otherwise all we would know would be His sun sign.

 

[Servus]

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Are you talking about the star of Bethlehem?

 

[peter2]

Are you talking about the star of Bethlehem?

No, not specifically.
And i've no information about how this star was considered by the wise men, but these of the Scriptures

 

[peter2]

I don't think we know what astrologic sign Jesus was. There doesn't seem to be an agreement on when he was born. Also to really know His sign, we would have to know where and what hour he was born.

Yes, i thought so. Thank you to confirm

Otherwise all we would know would be His sun sign.

What is it, please ?

 

[peter2]

What were the gifts?
Gold - For a King
Frankincense - For a Priest (This was specifically burned in the Temple and was reserved for God alone)
Myrrh - which was used to embalm the dead

Thank you, i truly was ignorant of that
As for wise men's behavior before Jesus, they are told to be worshipping him on kjv, whereas they are just bowing down before him on aelf, the french catholic official version.
And (i checked chatgpt, i don't know how reliable it is..), the ai says they are likely made gradually aware of who Jesus was

 

[jacks]

What is it, please ?

As I mentioned there isn't agreement on what month or day Jesus was born. So I can't say what His sun sign would be. If he was born on December 25th (which most people doubt) His sun sign would be a Capricorn. If he was born on March 25 (as some people estimate) His sun sign would be an Aries. However, as others have pointed out, there is no validity to astronomy in any case, so it really doesn't matter.

 

[peter2]

As I mentioned there isn't agreement on what month or day Jesus was born. So I can't say what His sun sign would be. If he was born on December 25th (which most people doubt) His sun sign would be a Capricorn. If he was born on March 25 (as some people estimate) His sun sign would be an Aries. However, as others have pointed out, there is no validity to astronomy in any case, so it really doesn't matter.

Thank you, jacks
I didn't know what you call a sun sign is simply what i call a zodiac sign

 

[jacks]

Thank you, jacks
I didn't know what you call a sun sign is simply what i call a zodiac sign

Yes, I think it is the same. It's very common to just refer to sun signs when talking about someone's zodiac sign.

 

[Chris35]

The only thing I could find was magi came from Zoroastrian religion prophecy of Jesus, not sure how true that it.

Please don't confuse this as Zorastrian religion being true. God may have given them a vision, however it still points to Jesus, which still comes from Israel as the word of God.