please answer a poll about abortion

[hsmommyofmany]

i am curious...

are you pro-abortion or pro-life and do you have children?

pro-abortion with no children
pro-abortion with children
pro-life with no children
pro-life with children

 

[Servant of Jesus]

Life begins at conception- anything else is inconceivable.

 

[Flibbertigibbet]

I felt like I needed to clarify my post, as just voting in the poll doesn't tell the whole story as it relates to your specific question.

I was pro-choice until 2007, when I was saved. I had 4 children already. Let me also share that I had abortions - all of them after age 20 and after I was already the mother of one child.

Despite having had a child, I still viewed an early pregnancy as a "collection of cells" rather than as a living child. In 2005, I was unmarried and pregnant at age 40. Despite having had abortions in the past, despite my pro-choice views, and despite being encouraged by others to have an abortion, I found that I simply was unable to do so - I just could not deny that I would be killing my child by doing so.

Despite this late-in-life personal conviction that abortion was wrong for me, I was still pro-choice. It was not until after I was saved in 2007 that my views changed and I came to view all life as precious.

 

[Ave Maria]

I object to this poll and will not vote because the options are inaccurate. The correct term is "pro-choice" not "pro-abortion". I don't know if a single person who is for abortion and would therefore be called pro-abortion.

 

[Servant of Jesus]

Most people today in Europe or America are pro-choice.

But at the same time, most are opposed to allowing an abortion because a fetus's gender.

You can't have it both ways.

When are we going to learn that a person's definition of what constitutes life is completely irrelevant- what matters is what God thinks.

 

[STevensSA]

I object to this poll and will not vote because the options are inaccurate. The correct term is "pro-choice" not "pro-abortion". I don't know if a single person who is for abortion and would therefore be called pro-abortion.

when it comes down to it what are we talking about here? That would be like me saying that I support capitol punishment but I'm against executions.

 

[Trashionista]

Very unscientific poll.

Anywho, I'm pro-choice. I don't like abortion, but given that women will find ways to get abortions done, regardless of the operation's legality, I do support the legality of abortion for health reasons. You can't regulate abortion and how abortions are performed when it's illegal.

I currently do not have children.

Also, if the pro-life side demands respect for life, why not extend that respect to the pro-choice side, and at least humour the idea that we too don't particularly like abortion? Thanks.

 

[revanneosl]

I'm actually pro-choice, not pro-abortion, but I checked pro-abortion, because pro-choice wasn't an option. My husband and I have no children, because we chose not to have any. I have never had an abortion.

 

[NDNgirl4ever]

Very unscientific poll.

Anywho, I'm pro-choice. I don't like abortion, but given that women will find ways to get abortions done, regardless of the operation's legality, I do support the legality of abortion for health reasons. You can't regulate abortion and how abortions are performed when it's illegal.

I currently do not have children.

Also, if the pro-life side demands respect for life, why not extend that respect to the pro-choice side, and at least humour the idea that we too don't particularly like abortion? Thanks.

I agree 100%. I'm pro-choice, because as a future nurse-midwife, I don't want to see women die because of botched abortions.

off topic: revanneosl, I LOVE your signature.

 

[Servant of Jesus]

I agree 100%. I'm pro-choice, because as a future nurse-midwife, I don't want to see women die because of botched abortions.

So you'd rather a baby is killed due to botched family planning?

 

[sleepythesahm]

Life begins at conception- anything else is inconceivable.

this is true.If youve been pregnant and you dont believe that, well, at the least im horrified.

 

[Servant of Jesus]

I agree 100%. I'm pro-choice, because as a future nurse-midwife, I don't want to see women die because of botched abortions.

So you'd rather a baby is killed due to botched family planning?

Or because of its gender (more often than not because it happens to be a little girl).

 

[Ave Maria]

Or because of its gender (more often than not because it happens to be a little girl).

Do you have statistical proof of this?

 

[Servant of Jesus]

Or because of its gender (more often than not because it happens to be a little girl).

Do you have statistical proof of this?

Gender-based abortion is a huge problem in India and China; there are hundreds of studies supporting this.

Wikipedia has a pretty good article http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-selective_abortion_and_infanticide on the topic, complete with references, that you can use to delve further.

A Google search using "abortion gender" will give you over 5 million hits.

Last year, the highly respected Society of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists of Canada (SOGC) issued a news release decrying the practice of allowing women to determine the sex of a baby within weeks of a pregnancy, and then giving them what they claim is the "unethical" opportunity to abort a fetus if the baby is not of a gender to their liking.

But Canada's laws support a woman's right to choose (is pro-choice) and therefore I don't understand how they can claim it is unethical for a woman to terminate a pregnancy for whatever reason she wants; after all, pro-choice is pro-choice!

The irony of this is that Canada's most famous abortionist, Dr. Henry Morgentaler, recently received the prestigious Order of Canada award for his work on terminating the lives of probably thousands of fetuses.

That is one honor I would not be proud of bragging about- especially standing before God on Judgment Day.

 

[Trashionista]

Gender-based abortion is a huge problem in India and China; there are hundreds of studies supporting this.

Wikipedia has a pretty good article http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex-selective_abortion_and_infanticide on the topic, complete with references, that you can use to delve further.

A Google search using "abortion gender" will give you over 5 million hits.

So far no-one living in India or China has actually posted in this thread in support of abortion used for sex-selection purposed.

Posting in support of a woman's right to choose in the First World is very different. Therefore, you can't really make the comparison that all Westerners who support abortion as a viable choice do support sex-selection abortion in countries where most of us, I'd bet, do not fully understand the culture. [If anyone here is from Mainland China or India, you are free to disagree.]

Just a hint: it'd probably be smarter to post something from a source that can't be edited by anyone who feels like editing. Wikipedia is incredibly unreliable. Heck, I could edit Wikipedia with a couple of bored users and claim Kate Moss is 250 lb, 3ft tall woman. Obviously, that's not true.

Last year, the highly respected Society of Obstetricians and Gynaecologists of Canada (SOGC) issued a news release decrying the practice of allowing women to determine the sex of a baby within weeks of a pregnancy, and then giving them what they claim is the "unethical" opportunity to abort a fetus if the baby is not of a gender to their liking.

But Canada's laws support a woman's right to choose (is pro-choice) and therefore I don't understand how they can claim it is unethical for a woman to terminate a pregnancy for whatever reason she wants; after all, pro-choice is pro-choice!

Actually, it's not but your free to stay with that rhetoric.

The irony of this is that Canada's most famous abortionist, Dr. Henry Morgentaler, recently received the prestigious Order of Canada award for his work on terminating the lives of probably thousands of fetuses.

That is one honor I would not be proud of bragging about- especially standing before God on Judgment Day.

I doubt Dr. Morgentaler is losing any sleep over it.

 

[Texas Lynn]

The poll is entirely unreliable and invalid because no one is "pro-abortion". As listed, it provides no useful data.

 

[Texas Lynn]

this is true.If youve been pregnant and you dont believe that, well, at the least im horrified.

There is no basis at all for the unsupported belief that a fetus is a person and this is coming from one who has delivered two children by regular birthing methods. As more women than men are "pro-choice," and more have had children than not, this is hardly news. It is precisely because I have a daughter that I am firmly pro-choice. It is none of the government's business whether she has an abortion or not. It is certainly no one else's business for what reason a woman obtains an abortion.

 

[cwolf20]

back before I figured out what was going on, (junior high 88, started watching the news instead of being bored by it) I kept trying to figure out what kind of choices were involved in pro-choice and why people cared about it?

among my many guesses were

chocolate- eat or not
videogames- play or not
room- clean or not

sarcasm may be fun, but I wasn't being sarcastic when I thought those were some of the choices involved in pro-choice

my point. abortion is involved in the choice aspect. whether someone chooses it or not. by being pro-choice: by default a person voting pro-choice is supporting those who choose to have one and therefore they are pro-abortion.
at the same time pro-choice also allows people to choose not to have one, and therefore someone supporting pro-choice is pro-life

I object to this poll and will not vote because the options are inaccurate. The correct term is "pro-choice" not "pro-abortion". I don't know if a single person who is for abortion and would therefore be called pro-abortion.

 

[lux et lex]

Wow...what a biased poll...I obviously couldn't vote. I am PRO CHOICE and have no children. If one was to be pro abortion, wouldn't that mean that they support abortion in every circumstance no matter if the mother wanted to carry the fetus to term? Pro life certainly means life in every circumstance...apples to apples, right?

 

[Trashionista]

back before I figured out what was going on, (junior high 88, started watching the news instead of being bored by it) I kept trying to figure out what kind of choices were involved in pro-choice and why people cared about it?

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my point. abortion is involved in the choice aspect. whether someone chooses it or not. by being pro-choice: by default a person voting pro-choice is supporting those who choose to have one and therefore they are pro-abortion.
at the same time pro-choice also allows people to choose not to have one, and therefore someone supporting pro-choice is pro-life

Clearly, your news sources are either limited, or you've chosen to limit yourself to reading right-wing, religious right propogands masquerading as "news". Abortion is not that cut and dry, especially not when dealing with different feminist viewpoints, for example on abortion.