please advise,what is Sola Scriptura

[AliOgg]

God Bless You

please advise, what is Sola Scriptura

And God Bless All His Peoples.

 

[Peter]

Literaly, scripture alone. However, if you have 9 people in a room, you'll get 10 answers as to what that means.

Here is a link to a pca site: http://www.mbrem.com/bible/solahodge.htm

Please note, by posting this link, I am not endorsing the material, just merely trying to answer your question.

Peace.

Rdr. Peter

 

[mythbuster]

My understanding is that a major part of the reformation was a return to, and a recovery of, the Bible and the teaching of the apostles revealed in the Bible. Because the church had departed from the Bible, the door was opened for all kinds of evil and demonic mixture under the crafty guise of tradition.

A major tenet of historical Christianity is the Bible plus tradition (mixture) as the source, whereas sola scriptura uses the Bible as the ultimate, final, and complete revelation of God.

 

[DrBubbaLove]

Apostolic Teaching, the teachings of the 12 Apostles for the most part proceeded the writings of all the NT sacred scriptures. So IMO it is a little difficult to suggest that the early Church did anything but preserve what the Apostles taught, including as many of their sacred writings as they could.



In my reading of first century writers describing Baptisms, catechumens, Eucharist, the conduct of Mass, there is much more in common with what I see today in my local Church and any Catholic Church I have attended than anything else seen in the prior 40 years of my life attending Protesting Churches.



Reading Luther one also cannot help thinking that he had no intention of starting a “new’ Church or tossing Holy Tradition but rather wanted the Church to correct abuses, to reform what was going on (something it did BTW, just not on his timetable).

It is only later that some Protestants try to claim that what was being “reformed” represented a return to pre-Roman Catholic days. Luther if he was able and some Lutherans will tell us that they believe in Holy Apostolic Tradition. Read his list of complaints against the Church. Do not recall anything there about a rejection of Tradition or a return to earlier times.

My understanding is that “SolaScriptura” was coined well after the Reformation started. Those who used it then did not encompass or at least use it as broadly as some do today to reject all Tradition. Have seen Lutherans suggest that besides them, Luther himself would be against you guys on this one.

 

[Peter]

My understanding is that a major part of the reformation was a return to, and a recovery of, the Bible and the teaching of the apostles revealed in the Bible. Because the church had departed from the Bible, the door was opened for all kinds of evil and demonic mixture under the crafty guise of tradition.

A major tenet of historical Christianity is the Bible plus tradition (mixture) as the source, whereas sola scriptura uses the Bible as the ultimate, final, and complete revelation of God.

Seeing as how this is an historical board, would you please list your sources for the claims above? Thank you.

Rdr. Peter

 

[AliOgg]

Literaly, scripture alone. However, if you have 9 people in a room, you'll get 10 answers as to what that means.

Here is a link to a pca site: http://www.mbrem.com/bible/solahodge.htm

Please note, by posting this link, I am not endorsing the material, just merely trying to answer your question.

Peace.

Rdr. Peter

Many thanks

And God Bless All His Peoples.

 

[AliOgg]

My understanding is that a major part of the reformation was a return to, and a recovery of, the Bible and the teaching of the apostles revealed in the Bible. Because the church had departed from the Bible, the door was opened for all kinds of evil and demonic mixture under the crafty guise of tradition.

A major tenet of historical Christianity is the Bible plus tradition (mixture) as the source, whereas sola scriptura uses the Bible as the ultimate, final, and complete revelation of God.

Do you think the Gifts of the Spirit are manifest in the world today as they were manifest in the Apostles?

And God Bless All His Peoples.

 

[AliOgg]

Read his list of complaints against the Church.

Where can I find this please?

And God Bless All His Peoples.

 

[mythbuster]

Peter,

Check out the History of the Reformation by
JH Merle D’Aubigne. I have his two volume set for the Reformation in England.
Also Millers Church History is good. A long time ago, before the age of the internet, any Bretheren book store would carry these books.

A great source for the degradation of the church would be the seven letters to the seven churches in Revelation. There you will have the throne of Satan, the dwelling place of Satan, the deep things of Satan, the teachings of Balaam, the teachings of the Nicolaitans, the teachings of that woman Jezebel who leads His slaves into fornication and idol sacrifices.

There are a lot a hallelujahs in Christianity but there are only four in the entire New Testament and that would be in Revelation chapter 19 where the great harlot who corrupted the earth with her fornication is judged and destroyed.

 

[DrBubbaLove]

Where can I find this please?

And God Bless All His Peoples.

Can goggle "Luther 95 thesis", here is one:

http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/wittenberg/luther/web/ninetyfive.html

 

[BBAS 64]

God Bless You

please advise, what is Sola Scriptura

And God Bless All His Peoples.

Good Day, AliOgg

Here is a link to the Luteran radio website for November 2004,

http://kfuo.org/ie_archive_Nov04.htm

If you go down to November the 21st there is 2 hours on this subject of what Sola Scriptura is and is not.

Peace to u,

Bill

 

[afrancis777]

Good Day, AliOgg

Here is a link to the Luteran radio website for November 2004,

http://kfuo.org/ie_archive_Nov04.htm

If you go down to November the 21st there is 2 hours on this subject of what Sola Scriptura is and is not.

Peace to u,

Bill

Excellent Source for everyone to listen to...it clears up a lot of misconceptions that many people have.

Thanks

 

[Huguenot]

That scripture is the final authority of matters concerning church structure, doctrine etc.

 

[DrBubbaLove]

That scripture is the final authority of matters concerning church structure, doctrine etc.

So for almost 300 years or so the Church had no structure or doctrine?

 

[AliOgg]

the teachings of the Nicolaitans, QUOTE]

What did the nicolaitans teach ?

And God Bless All His Peoples.

 

[BBAS 64]

So for almost 300 years or so the Church had no structure or doctrine?

Good Day, DrBubbaLove

Um, No

Melito of Sardis...to his brother Onesimus, greeting: Since thou hast often, in thy zeal for the word, expressed a wish to have extracts made from the Law and the Prophets concerning the Saviour and concerning our entire faith, and hast also desired to have an accurate statement of the ancient book, as regards their number and their order, I have endeavored to perform the task, knowing thy zeal for the faith, and thy desire to gain information in regard to the word, and knowing that thou, in thy yearning after God, esteemest these things above all else, struggling to attain eternal salvation. Accordingly when I went East and came to the place where these things were preached and done, I learned accurately the books of the Old Testament, and send them to thee as written below." (cited in Eusebius, Church History, 4:26:13-14)

Melito lived in the early 2nd century and accurately related the cannon to Onesimus so that he could contuine a zealous extaction of the ancient books from which he learned of the Saviour and their entire Faith.

Peace to u,

Bill

 

[AliOgg]

Can goggle "Luther 95 thesis", here is one:

http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/wittenberg/luther/web/ninetyfive.html

Thank you

And God Bless All His Peoples.

 

[AliOgg]

Good Day, AliOgg

Here is a link to the Luteran radio website for November 2004,

http://kfuo.org/ie_archive_Nov04.htm

If you go down to November the 21st there is 2 hours on this subject of what Sola Scriptura is and is not.

Peace to u,

Bill

Thanks for the link

And God Bless All His Peoples.

 

[mythbuster]

the teachings of the Nicolaitans, QUOTE]

What did the nicolaitans teach ?

And God Bless All His Peoples.

Shalom AliOgg,

For the Nicolaitans I have:

Scofield Reference Notes (1917 Edition)


2:6 But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate.

Nicolaitanes

From nikao, "to conquer," and laos, "the people," or "laity." There is no ancient authority for a sect of the Nicolaitanes. If the word is symbolic it refers to the earliest form of the notion of a priestly order, or "clergy," which later divided an equal brotherhood Matthew 23:8 into "priests" and "laity." What in Ephesus was "deeds" Revelation 2:6 had become in Pergamos a "doctrine Revelation 2:15.

Nicolaitanes Revelation 2:15, contra, ; 1 Peter 5:2,3; Matthew 24:49.


That is to say the entire monstrosity of the clergy-laity system and the professional mediatorial class. By adding to the Bible we have this teaching that results in the practice that kills the normal function of the members of the body. To pay other people to speak, preach, pray, sing, entertain, while we rest in our pews is hated by the Lord. What's worse is to pay professional religious people to speak words that you want to hear.

You ask good questions. Remember Antipas.
Peace be multiplied

 

[InquisitorKind]

However, if you have 9 people in a room, you'll get 10 answers as to what that means.

In the interest of maintaining your credibility, please present seven or eight functionally different definitions of Sola Scriptura. If you can't, we'll reject your claim for what it is.

~Matt